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Which is why it's imperative for Jews to learn Torah--just so they can realize when somebody advocates anti-Torah views.
Bingo!
In today's times, there are so many alternative moralities. Heck, even among Jews, some have created alternative moralities. Friends, these come with disastrous consequences for Jews. We only have one option, if it's truth you seek. Torah. Everything else will lead you towards Baptizing your grandchildren.
You folks keep trying to make the Torah Observant Jews the villains in this forum, when were the only ones courageous enough to tell you the truth. Judaism is hard. Sometimes it feels counter intuitive. Sometimes it asks sacrifices of you. Sometimes it tells you to course correct when you don't want to.
Don't give in the what the secular influences tell you. They are wrong, and they lead to spiritual death. And the more eloquent they are in their delivery of this message of spiritual destruction, the more you should avoid them.
The yetzer hara (evil inclination) leaves you alone when you're on the wrong path. I know only IWish will understand this last statement, but I hope you will all file it away for future reference when you're ready to hear the truth.
Which is why it's imperative for Jews to learn Torah...
Should people be able to read it and translate it for themselves so there is no loss in the meaning of the words or should one rely on others to read it, translate it for them and trust their interpretations of the meaning of the words (for now lets keep the Talmud out of this question)?
Should people be able to read it and translate it for themselves so there is no loss in the meaning of the words or should one rely on others to read it, translate it for them and trust their interpretations of the meaning of the words (for now lets keep the Talmud out of this question)?
An to add to this question, why would every Jew need to be present at mt Sinai if they needed an interpreter?
In today's times, there are so many alternative moralities. Heck, even among Jews, some have created alternative moralities. Friends, these come with disastrous consequences for Jews. We only have one option, if it's truth you seek. Torah. Everything else will lead you towards Baptizing your grandchildren.
How do you define morality?
What are these "alternative moralities" that you speak of?
How does not blindly following the Torah lead one directly to Baptizing? Where is your proof of these correlations?
In today's times, there are so many alternative moralities. Heck, even among Jews, some have created alternative moralities. Friends, these come with disastrous consequences for Jews. We only have one option, if it's truth you seek. Torah. Everything else will lead you towards Baptizing your grandchildren.
You folks keep trying to make the Torah Observant Jews the villains in this forum, when were the only ones courageous enough to tell you the truth. Judaism is hard. Sometimes it feels counter intuitive. Sometimes it asks sacrifices of you. Sometimes it tells you to course correct when you don't want to.
Don't give in the what the secular influences tell you. They are wrong, and they lead to spiritual death. And the more eloquent they are in their delivery of this message of spiritual destruction, the more you should avoid them.
The yetzer hara (evil inclination) leaves you alone when you're on the wrong path. I know only IWish will understand this last statement, but I hope you will all file it away for future reference when you're ready to hear the truth.
Then show us the Truth. Show us where in the Tanakh (which includes the Torah) or even in the Talmud that directly states what you state as fact. Enough with the Hebrew, Yiddish and Aramaic sayings, show us the actual verses (with links).
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