Judaism and Homosexuality

[Jazzymom]

Originally Posted by Chava61

Perhaps I need to clarify what I meant. In Israel if someone says that they are "masorti" it doesn't necessarily mean that they identify with the conservative movement. A "masorti" Israeli may still attend an orthodox synagogue and have some orthodox practices or be secular while observing a few traditional religious practices without formally being connected to the conservative movement (meaning the person states in general that they are secular).

Originally Posted by Chava61
The Israeli "masorti" (traditional) Jew is not the same as the American "conservative" Jew.

riginally Posted by Jazzymom
They are the same, just different names.

The Masorti movement is a traditional, egalitarian religious movement in Israel, affiliated with the worldwide Masorti/Conservative movement.

Masorti: Jewish Tradition and Halachah
The Conservative Movement
CJ: Voices of Conservative/Masorti Judaism : The United Synagogue for Conservative Judaism (USCJ)

Did you look at the links? A conservative/masorti may also be orthodox or secular with a few traditional practices. Have a variety of practice to orthodox to non orthodox.

I attend a masorti/conservative shul and there are a wide variety of traditional practices. The Israelis who go to my shul identify themselves with masorti and that is what they call themselves.

[brooklynborndad]

Originally Posted by Chava61

The Israeli "masorti" (traditional) Jew is not the same as the American "conservative" Jew.

My understanding is that the term "masoreti" (or masorati) is used for the traditional Jews (often sephardim) who attend O synagogues but are incompletely observant, while Masorti is used for the Israeli movement which is also affiliated with Masorti Olami, the world movement of Masorti Judaism, with which USCJ is also affiliated.

See this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masorti

"The Masorti Movement is the name given to Conservative Judaism in Israel and other countries outside Canada and U.S. Masorti means "traditional" in Hebrew. It should not be confused with the large part of Israeli Jews (25% to 50% depending on definitions) who define themselves as "masorati" (or Shomer Masoret) - meaning religiously "traditional" but do not wish to be labelled as Orthodox."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shomer_Masoret

"One must also note, not to confuse the Israeli term "Masorati" with the Conservative Judaism's stream-movement within the U.S, with a similar descriptive names of "Masorti" or Masorti Judaism, accounted as moderate Orthodox Jews (and not as "Traditionalists" or "Tradition Keeper" non-Orthodox observance, as the Israeli terms' attribution to its meaning)."

[Chava61]

Originally Posted by brooklynborndad

My understanding is that the term "masoreti" (or masorati) is used for the traditional Jews (often sephardim) who attend O synagogues but are incompletely observant, while Masorti is used for the Israeli movement which is also affiliated with Masorti Olami, the world movement of Masorti Judaism, with which USCJ is also affiliated.

See this

Masorti - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"The Masorti Movement is the name given to Conservative Judaism in Israel and other countries outside Canada and U.S. Masorti means "traditional" in Hebrew. It should not be confused with the large part of Israeli Jews (25% to 50% depending on definitions) who define themselves as "masorati" (or Shomer Masoret) - meaning religiously "traditional" but do not wish to be labelled as Orthodox."

Shomer Masoret - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"One must also note, not to confuse the Israeli term "Masorati" with the Conservative Judaism's stream-movement within the U.S, with a similar descriptive names of "Masorti" or Masorti Judaism, accounted as moderate Orthodox Jews (and not as "Traditionalists" or "Tradition Keeper" non-Orthodox observance, as the Israeli terms' attribution to its meaning)."

Masorati and masorti are really the same word with just a different pronunciation. But thank you for clarifying how depending on the pronunciation it is being used to define 2 different things.

[PITTSTON2SARASOTA]

Originally Posted by Sarah33

Vayikra (Leviticus) !8:22
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind; it is abomination.

Levictus........Eating shellfish is an abomination along with a host of other ridiculous statements>>>>>
Bible (King James)/Leviticus - Wikisource

No crab/shrimp/lobster etc...for you!.

[Walter Greenspan]

Originally Posted by PITTSTON2SARASOTA

No crab/shrimp/lobster etc...for you!:smack:.

No bacon with your morning eggs nor a cheeseburger for lunch, either.

Jews are bound by the 613 Mitzvot (Commandments) given at Sinai and binding on those who were there, their descendents and those who voluntarily accept them through conversion.

Gentiles are bound by the Seven Noahide Commandments.

[Fred314X]

Originally Posted by PITTSTON2SARASOTA

Levictus........Eating shellfish is an abomination along with a host of other ridiculous statements>>>>>
Bible (King James)/Leviticus - Wikisource

No crab/shrimp/lobster etc...for you!.

Having grown up without crab or lobster, I hardly feel deprived. And as to bacon, I'm sure my cholesterol levels thank me for not indulging. I would respectfully suggest, however, that if you're going to quote Jewish law, particularly if there might be Jewish people reading your quotations, that you try to avoid quoting from the King James Version.