KC ranked #2 on "redneck city" list (Kansas City, Independence: established neighborhood, schools)

[Alpha_Dog]

Originally Posted by alphajet

Lot's of great info and stats provided by you Techwired! My favorite city in Kansas aside from Lawrence has always been Leawood for many reasons, including having family and friends still living there. If you could give us some matching cities or comparisons to Leawood, we would definitely appreciate it. And if you ever make it down to South Tampa we would definitely enjoy serving you up the Midwest's best original Brew on ice.

Interesting that you mentioned Lawrence, it's always been one of my favorite places in Kansas. Great culture and atmosphere on Mount Oread -- and it definitely has some of the best looking women in the Big 12 conference, next to UT.


Here's the info on Leawood using the same criteria as before.


Closest matched Cities and Towns to Leawood, KS

1. Germantown, Tennessee 91.9%
2. Solon, Ohio 91.2%
3. Chesterfield, Missouri 88.5%
4. Scarborough, Maine 87.9%
5. Mentor, Ohio 86.3%
6. Shelton, Connecticut 86%
7. Wilbraham, Massachusetts 85.9%
8. Gahanna, Ohio 85.9%
9. Portsmouth, Rhode Island 85.1%
10.Burlington, Massachusetts 84%

Interesting that Leawood is somewhat New England-esque?

* note - These models/algorithms were developed in 2010, so when comparing KCMO specifically to other large cities like Indy, Columbus, etc, remember that there has been a good amount of commercial development in the past 3 years, along with steady population growth in those metros effecting the metrics on GDP, revenues, in/out migration trends, demographics and household income. I would say it's 85-90% accurate on KCMO, on the smaller cities and towns under 100k closer to 90-95%.

[Alpha_Dog]

Originally Posted by MrIndependent

Where is Omaha?!?!?!? I am shocked that it wasn't in the Top 10. SHOCKED.
Even Des Moines

Relax -- Omaha was 13th at 90.2%, Des Moines came in at 19th, right below Sacramento.

[TabulaRasa]

Originally Posted by MrIndependent

I used to think Cincy was a close pair to KC, until I realized that city is actually a lot more like St. Louis, and really isn't that similar to KC at all.

Indy on the other hand, certainly is a pair with KC.

I think Cincinnati and KC have a good deal in common, but then, I also don't find any vast difference between KC and St. Louis (EEEEEEEEKTHEHORROR!!!!).

[Alpha_Dog]

Originally Posted by MrIndependent

Where is Omaha?!?!?!? I am shocked that it wasn't in the Top 10. SHOCKED.

No need to be shocked. They both have different economies, different religious preferences and violent crime trends - Very different demographics as well, Kansas City, MO Black population is 30.3%, while Omaha NE is 13.7%....surprised they were even that close.

[MOKAN]

Originally Posted by Techwired

No need to be shocked. They both have different economies, different religious preferences and violent crime trends - Very different demographics as well, Kansas City, MO Black population is 30.3%, while Omaha NE is 13.7%....surprised they were even that close.

Omaha is more white collar, less Baptist (or similar), and has a lower rate of violent crime.

You should do Independence, MO. I have a feeling Council Bluffs would come up as similar.

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I went to Ameristar Casino the other day via the east loop of 435 coming from SW KCMO, and I think a lot of the elitist and/or indifferent KCMO promoters seem to forget a huge portion (basically the eastern half) of this city exists. KC has a large blue-collar employment base. I'd wager some of the folks in the urban core don't even realize the East Bottoms (Front St corridor) exists, let alone with its vastness and energy. Travelling through the area I was thinking about how the folks whose livelihood depends on the activity over there must see KC in a whole different light. It's like two different worlds. I even forget that part of KCMO exists. It feels like an entirely different place, kind of like there's another KCK attached to KCMO on the east, and it basically feels like that from the Bannister area all the way up to Claycomo.

[Alpha_Dog]

Originally Posted by TabulaRasa

I think Cincinnati and KC have a good deal in common, but then, I also don't find any vast difference between KC and St. Louis (EEEEEEEEKTHEHORROR!!!!).

The regions may have some similarities, but the two cities are pretty different IMO, especially when you look at the numbers. Kansas City MO (city), is wealthier, has much higher homeownership rates, a more diverse population, less poverty, and the people of Kansas City MO seem to enjoy consumer spending much more per capita than the people of Southern Ohio -- not exactly redneck traits.


Cincinnati, OH Population 2012 -- 296,550, Kansas City, (city) MO Population 2012 --464,319


2012 Homeownership Rates, Cincy, 41%, KCMO, 57%

Median household income, 2007-2011, Cincy, $34,104, KCMO, $45,246

Retail sales spending per capita, 2010, Cincy, $9,932, KCMO, $14,798

Persons of Hispanic or Latino origin, percent, 2010, Cincy, 2.8%, KCMO, 10.7%

Persons living below the poverty level, percent, 2007-2011, Cincy, 27.4%, KCMO, 18.2%

[Alpha_Dog]

Originally Posted by MOKAN

Omaha is more white collar, less Baptist (or similar), and has a lower rate of violent crime.

You should do Independence, MO. I have a feeling Council Bluffs would come up as similar.

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I went to Ameristar Casino the other day via the east loop of 435 coming from SW KCMO, and I think a lot of the elitist and/or indifferent KCMO promoters seem to forget a huge portion (basically the eastern half) of this city exists. KC has a large blue-collar employment base. I'd wager some of the folks in the urban core don't even realize the East Bottoms (Front St corridor) exists, let alone with its vastness and energy. Travelling through the area I was thinking about how the folks whose livelihood depends on the activity over there must see KC in a whole different light. It's like two different worlds. I even forget that part of KCMO exists. It feels like an entirely different place, kind of like there's another KCK attached to KCMO on the east, and it basically feels like that from the Bannister area all the way up to Claycomo.

They're currently 152 parishes in the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Omaha, almost one-third of Omaha's population is Catholic, definitely the most Catholic city on the Plains per capita by far. They're also four times as many Lutherans in Omaha (Douglas County) than there is Southern Baptists -- very different from the Missouri side of Kansas City. Omaha has a much lower violent crime rate than K.C. as you've previously mentioned.

I think Independence is a bit of an anomaly because it's pretty rare to find such a large, fairly non diverse Blue-Collar suburb of this size -- 117k. After looking at all this info, it appears that Independence is kinda Redneck.

Independence, MO
Independance has High Homeownership Rates / Low College Graduation Rates / High Military Veteran Rates.

Independance MO, Compared to the rest of the state

Well-Paid Single Women
(vs. State) Top 19% Independence MO, Well-Paid Single Women
Public Transportation Use
(vs. State) Top 11% Independence MO, Public Transportation Use


Top 10 closest matched Cities and Towns to Independence, MO.

1. Middletown, Ohio 90.8%
2. Fort Wayne, Indiana 87.3%
3. Mishawaka, Indiana 87.3%
4. Gastonia, North Carolina 87%
5. Brooklyn Center, Minnesota 86.8%
6. Fridley, Minnesota, 85.9%
7. Eastpointe, Michigan 85.9%
8. Wheat Ridge, Colorado 83.6%
9. Burien, Washington 83.1%
10. Salem, Oregon, 81.9%

[MOKAN]

^Cool info. But City Data's info says Omaha is half Catholic. KCK 39%. And even Independence is supposedly 30%. KCMO is also 30% according to City Data.

I'm really surprised Council Bluffs wasn't in the top 10 for Independence.

[Alpha_Dog]

Originally Posted by MOKAN

^Cool info. But City Data's info says Omaha is half Catholic. KCK 39%. And even Independence is supposedly 30%. KCMO is also 30% according to City Data.

I'm really surprised Council Bluffs wasn't in the top 10 for Independence.

Half Catholic...that's my people! The local supermarkets and Red Lobsters must make a killing in Omaha on Good Friday!

KCK at 39%? KCK has a 27% Hispanic population, and 71% of Hispanics in the U.S. are Catholic, so maybe with some fuzzy math it's doable.

I get most of the info on religion from ARDA, The Association of Religious Data Archives -- very detailed.

The Association of Religion Data Archives - U.S. and World Religion Statistics and Data - ARDA
The Association of Religion Data Archives | Maps & Reports

[Alpha_Dog]

Originally Posted by MOKAN

I'm really surprised Council Bluffs wasn't in the top 10 for Independence.

The reason it didn't come up because I plugged in Council Bluffs as Nebraska instead of Iowa -- shows you my in depth knowledge of the region.


Closest matched Cities and Towns to Council Bluffs Iowa

1. Seymour, Indiana 89.9%
2. Davenport, Iowa 89.8%
3. New Albany, Indiana 89.6%
4. Sioux City, Iowa 89.5%
5. Salina, Kansas 88.4%
6. Waterloo, Iowa 88.1%
7. Des Moines, Iowa 86.5%
8. Sedalia, Missouri 86.4%
9. Hutchinson, KS 86.1%
10. Enid, Oklahoma 85.5%

BTW -- that was last call for city matching and nope Independence didn't crack the top ten.