"The New Midwest" (Kansas City, St. Louis: home, neighborhood, school)

[Good Red Road]

Originally Posted by CaseyMO

We continue to hope that people from East or West coasts just stay there. We are happy as we are and we really don't give a rat's rear about what people on the coasts think.

Folks from the the Midwest discounting those from the coasts is the same thing as the “Costal Elites”
referring to the Midwest as fly over country. Sorry, but you can’t get a little bit pregnant. Either we’re one country...or we’re not.

[James Bond 007]

Originally Posted by Ztonyg

My wife is from Johnson County and wants to move back to the KC area. Politics is a big reason why I am reluctant to do it. Yes we live in Arizona which is a historically "red" state however with all of the transplants that have relocated here from California and Illinois as well as the increasing Latin American population Arizona is becoming more of a purple state (and many expect it to be a swing state in the 2020 election).

Kansas and Missouri are deeply in the "red" category and will not elect anyone other than Trump and a bunch of gun loving, abortion hating, education hating politicians to statewide and national offices (even if their metropolitan areas are pink and purple). The only reason Kansas has a Democratic governor is because the Republican candidate was one of the most disgusting human beings ever to run for office and had Colyer won the Republican primaries he would have easily won the governorship.

I am actually expecting Kansas to become a purple state over the next few decades, believe it or not. It's already gotten more moderate.

Not sure about Missouri. Missouri has a good amount of Southern influence which is very strongly conservative. Maybe with a sufficiently populist angle, or a very moderate angle, might some democrats do well here again.

[MarketStEl]

Originally Posted by CaseyMO

It is probably more universal than you might think. California license plates? Those days ended long ago. People are fleeing California due to the mess created there. Your last paragraph is why we like it here and not being with the smug people who currently live on the East or West Coast. That smugness seems to be universal of the coasts.

Living as I do in Philadelphia, I can assure you that the smugness you refer to is also not universal along the East Coast.

Residents of the non-superstar metropolises - Baltimore, Providence, Hartford, Philadelphia - aren't smug at all. And those I've met who have been to Kansas City (yes, there are some) like it as much as I do.

By the way, among those Kansas Citians who had - and have - relatives living in California was me when I lived there. I had a couple of great-aunts (and a great-uncle) who lived in the LA area: the couple in Willowbrook, not far from Compton, and the single aunt in Altadena when I was a child (and Baldwin Hills by the time I was in college). I have a cousin now who lives in Oakland.

[MarketStEl]

Originally Posted by CrownVic95

Respectfully, GS, I ignored your post because it had nothing to do with what I said. Nor does the above. It is a whole new topic.

My narrative? My narrative is the real world, as opposed to the alternate reality that today's left lives in and is hell bent upon obliterating the Midwest with. But, as I've always said, Kansas City knows better.

Did you read the articles about the guy who just got elected mayor there, Quinton Lucas (the third black mayor in the city's history, and the second in a row)? He was spouting the-rent-is-too-damn-high rhetoric during the campaign. (I see he was raised by a single mom and attended Barstow. Another Troost Avenue-crosser. By the way, note the backgrounds of the new City Council members listed in the KCUR news report I linked here.)

Or the ones about how the city and the Area Transportation Authority are likely to make the buses fare-free, like this one from my Next City column on public transportation news?

You swore that the citizens of KC "knew better" than to replace their cramped, dysfunctional drive-to-your-gate airport. They voted to do just that.

Seems you ignore a lot about the city that doesn't fit your narrative.

[CrownVic95]

Originally Posted by Good Red Road

Folks from the the Midwest discounting those from the coasts is the same thing as the “Costal Elites”
referring to the Midwest as fly over country. Sorry, but you can’t get a little bit pregnant. Either we’re one country...or we’re not.

That's easy - we're not. And the reason we're not is that radical leftists, concentrated on the coasts, seceded about 30 years ago.

What's left of this country is concentrated in the heartland, which is why folks from the Midwest discounting those from the coasts is NOT the same thing as the "coastal elites" referring to the Midwest as fly-over country.

[Craziaskowboi]

Who cares what people on the coasts think of Kansas City? Let them be ignorant.

[MarketStEl]

Originally Posted by CrownVic95

That's easy - we're not. And the reason we're not is that radical leftists, concentrated on the coasts, seceded about 30 years ago.

What's left of this country is concentrated in the heartland, which is why folks from the Midwest discounting those from the coasts is NOT the same thing as the "coastal elites" referring to the Midwest as fly-over country.

"Racist rubes and hicks." "Effete socialist snobs."

Seems to me the overgeneralizations cancel each other out.

The coasts and the interior may seem like two radically different countries, but I don't think they are.

By the way, since my post was related to your narrative, any thoughts on that? Let me have it. :P

[CaseyMO]

Originally Posted by James Bond 007

I am actually expecting Kansas to become a purple state over the next few decades, believe it or not. It's already gotten more moderate.

Not sure about Missouri. Missouri has a good amount of Southern influence which is very strongly conservative. Maybe with a sufficiently populist angle, or a very moderate angle, might some democrats do well here again.

With regards to Kansas, anything is possible. Also, maybe Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Minnesota could go red.

[CaseyMO]

Originally Posted by MarketStEl

"Racist rubes and hicks." "Effete socialist snobs."

Seems to me the overgeneralizations cancel each other out.

Why would terms describing non-Midwesterners cancel each other out?

[MarketStEl]

Originally Posted by CaseyMO

With regards to Kansas, anything is possible. Also, maybe Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Minnesota could go red.

I'm not seeing a truly red Pennsylvania in the near future. Too many people living in the Southeast for that to happen, and if anything, the Southeast has gotten bluer over the recent past. I think it remains a battleground.