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Originally Posted by Raiderman

We, too, enjoy the absurdity that IS Las Vegas! We went to see our friends play last night at Carnaval Court at Harrah's. I don't get over to the Strip very often, but my buddy has been asking me to come see him play for a while, so Monday night on the Strip it was!

I forget the lunacy of people, which makes the watching of them an absolutely STELLAR time! We saw a 10' alien, a few Transformers, a dude wearing a diaper with wings strapped to his back, and idiotic people who think their toddler belongs there seeing all of it. I did point out to them that Anaheim is 4 hours that-a-way, but they didn't understand me :/

I might have seen you there. I enjoyed the statue model guy on the strip. He didn't move until I donated $1 in his tip jar and then he crossed his legs. Then there was the guy in an Australian hat, camo shirt, black leather pants with pink feather boas from ankle to mid thigh strutting down the strip like it was perfectly normal attire.

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Originally Posted by Datafeed

I would be on that tail like a FED doing surveillance of ISIS in NYC.

I wore my ISIS shirt one day on the strip this week. It stands for International Secret Intelligence Service which happens to be the agency that the cartoon TV character Archer works for.

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Originally Posted by lvoc

Taking out any one city in the US including NY or LA would have a similar impact. And much of the rust belt has naturally done this act. Two years later the impact would have entirely vanished.

Just take out Wall St. in NY and most people would applaud. Investment bankers are every bit as sleazy as casino owners. They just have a better rep because they pay off more politicians. And isn't "investing" somewhat indistinguishable from gambling? And I haven't seen any casino bad investments almost take down the country's financial system like the sub-prime mortgage fiasco.

Take out LA and we'd lose movies and most TV shows. Ouch.

Take out Vegas with a nuke and we'd lose a lot of good entertainment. Not quite as bad as losing TV and movies in LA but still bad. And you would lose 7 of the 10 top grossing bars in the country.

But gambling? No big loss, although it is a form of entertainment, just different from movies or shows.

[ScoopLV]

Originally Posted by Raiderman

Ok, I like you as a person, but you are WAY off. How does Las Vegas equate to a tumor? People spend their disposable income for entertainment. Just like they do for $150 Broadway tickets. They would miss a place to be entertained, which increases their quality of life.

The difference is that New York is so much more than Broadway. The world financial system would collapse if something were to happen to New York. Los Angeles is more than Hollywood. Look at all the shipping in Long Beach. The midwest is our bread basket, and their cities support the agriculture. We have fishing towns and fruit growing towns and all sorts of stuff.

Las Vegas produces nothing. We manufacture nothing (nothing meaningful at least). We grow nothing (Gilcrease doesn't count). We could not possibly sustain ourselves without importing everything. And as nice as Live Nude Girls are, America doesn't need strip clubs to get by. Las Vegas is a parasite and North America is the host. I stand by this comment. North America does not need Las Vegas. Las Vegas couldn't possibly exist without North America.

The closest city to Las Vegas, from an economic standpoint, is Orlando. Orlando basically exists as a fantasy land, and as a support city for the people who work at fantasy land. But at least Orlando produces citrus. It has something going for it besides mouse ears. Las Vegas has nothing. When it comes time to make hard choices about the allocation of scarce resources (like fresh water), Las Vegas is finally going to come up snake-eyes. That's how I see it. And that's why I'm getting out of here before water becomes a problem. And I am certain that water will become a problem in my lifetime.

[ScoopLV]

Originally Posted by jtjtjtjt

Take out Vegas with a nuke and we'd lose a lot of good entertainment. Not quite as bad as losing TV and movies in LA but still bad. And you would lose 7 of the 10 top grossing bars in the country.

If it weren't for the fact that it's morbid, I would start a poll in the "great debates" section of C-D.

"What is America's most useless city? For example: If a single nuclear missile from N. Korea was inbound, and you could control where it landed, BUT it had to strike a metropolitan area with more than 1 million residents, where would you send it?"

I'll bet Las Vegas would be the first choice, Washington, D.C. would be #2, and San Francisco would be #3. Yankee fans would send it to Boston. And Red Sox fans would send it to New York. But I believe Las Vegas would be far-and-away the number-one choice. 1) We don't produce anything. 2) We're in the middle of nowhere so fallout wouldn't affect our neighbors.


Seriously, we really have nothing going for us other than being an adult Disneyland.

[Clarkcty]

Originally Posted by Raiderman

We, too, enjoy the absurdity that IS Las Vegas! We went to see our friends play last night at Carnaval Court at Harrah's. I don't get over to the Strip very often, but my buddy has been asking me to come see him play for a while, so Monday night on the Strip it was!

I forget the lunacy of people, which makes the watching of them an absolutely STELLAR time! We saw a 10' alien, a few Transformers, a dude wearing a diaper with wings strapped to his back, and idiotic people who think their toddler belongs there seeing all of it. I did point out to them that Anaheim is 4 hours that-a-way, but they didn't understand me :/

I just want to point out to you, the toddler is not the one on vacation.

[Onlyliveonce]

Originally Posted by ScoopLV

The difference is that New York is so much more than Broadway. The world financial system would collapse if something were to happen to New York. Los Angeles is more than Hollywood. Look at all the shipping in Long Beach. The midwest is our bread basket, and their cities support the agriculture. We have fishing towns and fruit growing towns and all sorts of stuff.

Las Vegas produces nothing. We manufacture nothing (nothing meaningful at least). We grow nothing (Gilcrease doesn't count). We could not possibly sustain ourselves without importing everything. And as nice as Live Nude Girls are, America doesn't need strip clubs to get by. Las Vegas is a parasite and North America is the host. I stand by this comment. North America does not need Las Vegas. Las Vegas couldn't possibly exist without North America.

The closest city to Las Vegas, from an economic standpoint, is Orlando. Orlando basically exists as a fantasy land, and as a support city for the people who work at fantasy land. But at least Orlando produces citrus. It has something going for it besides mouse ears. Las Vegas has nothing. When it comes time to make hard choices about the allocation of scarce resources (like fresh water), Las Vegas is finally going to come up snake-eyes. That's how I see it. And that's why I'm getting out of here before water becomes a problem. And I am certain that water will become a problem in my lifetime.

Something did happen to New York on 9/11 and within a month we were back to pre 9/11 levels. I have attached an article for your viewing.
How September 11 Affected The U.S. Stock Market

I cannot not fathom why you have such a negative attitude of a city with a population in excess of 2 million people. You are hung up on the manufacturing aspect, and very little manufacturing is within the USA anymore. If you take a State such as North Dakota and their oil rush, is that the quality of life you want ? ( that's up to you ) Also with these ridiculous analogy's of States being on their own or "nucking" them don't hold credibility. WE are the UNITED States of America and no State has to stand on its own.

Each State has its pros and cons and non better than the other. Living in a particular State is a personal choice and you have chosen poorly for yourself.

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Originally Posted by ScoopLV

If it weren't for the fact that it's morbid, I would start a poll in the "great debates" section of C-D.

"What is America's most useless city? For example: If a single nuclear missile from N. Korea was inbound, and you could control where it landed, BUT it had to strike a metropolitan area with more than 1 million residents, where would you send it?"

I'll bet Las Vegas would be the first choice, Washington, D.C. would be #2, and San Francisco would be #3. Yankee fans would send it to Boston. And Red Sox fans would send it to New York. But I believe Las Vegas would be far-and-away the number-one choice. 1) We don't produce anything. 2) We're in the middle of nowhere so fallout wouldn't affect our neighbors.


Seriously, we really have nothing going for us other than being an adult Disneyland.

Did you make the thread?

[Raiderman]

List of Metropolitan Statistical Areas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

52 to choose from. You'd seriously pick LV over the entire state of OH?

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Originally Posted by Onlyliveonce

Something did happen to New York on 9/11 and within a month we were back to pre 9/11 levels. I have attached an article for your viewing.
How September 11 Affected The U.S. Stock Market

I cannot not fathom why you have such a negative attitude of a city with a population in excess of 2 million people. You are hung up on the manufacturing aspect, and very little manufacturing is within the USA anymore. If you take a State such as North Dakota and their oil rush, is that the quality of life you want ? ( that's up to you ) Also with these ridiculous analogy's of States being on their own or "nucking" them don't hold credibility. WE are the UNITED States of America and no State has to stand on its own.

I don't think you're seeing things the way I see them. I think that Lake Mead is a goner. I think weather patterns around the Rocky Mountains are going to be disrupted to the point where the Colorado River would be better described as a stream. We already lost one-full year's worth of river flow in the last 10 years. And it's accelerating. It's only a matter of time before the river's output is cut in half. With this scenario, things look grim for Las Vegas.

So if you have to choose between using what's left of the Colorado to produce food, and using what's left of the Colorado keep Las Vegas running, it's an easy choice. People are mistaking "production" to mean ONLY manufacturing. I don't care if a city/region produces shrimp, fruit, cars, paper, minerals, or even credit card statements. Every other city in America is surrounded by suburban and rural areas which support the city. Drive an hour out of New York (on a light-traffic day), and you're in farmland.

Las Vegas simply is not the same. We only take. America (and the world) flies to this city, drops off financial resources and Las Vegas produces nothing in return. Drive an hour in any direction and you still have next to nothing -- some borax, some lithium, and hydroelectric power. We only need a population of a few thousand to work these useful industries. The rest is all you can eat buffets (provided by areas that produce food), bars and clubs (provided by areas that produce grain), and gaming (which is a pointless waste of time).

EDIT -- Incidentally, think things look equally grim for Phoenix. Some day, textbooks will mention the failure of high-density settling of the Mojave desert. (Unless we can find a source of free energy and desalination becomes cheap enough to refill our lakes and irrigate our crops hundreds of miles from the shore. I think the only chance we have is a technological break-through. Thus, it would behoove us to ramp up our schools for the gifted programs nationally.)