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With the volume of traffic, the "left lane for passing" scenario is hardly workable in this environment.
Total BS. It's workable in ANY scenario. It's how the roads were designed to be used. People here just DON'T use it, weren't taught it and argue about it as though their persistent denial somehow makes them right. Speed and lane usage are both rules of the road. That one is enforced and the other isn't is just short sighted stupidity.
You have your right to your opinion on speed limits and that's fine. You don't have a right to advocate that proper lane usage is unworkable or doesn't matter. Of course in bumper to bumper traffic it isn't pertinent, but that is the exception, not the rule.
If they started handing out tickets for driving too slow in the passing lane, there would be fewer people passing on the right, less tailgating and fewer accidents. That's a fact.
Let ME worry about that. I don't need you and GPSM enforcing the law for the officers.
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When you drive like that you are putting not only yourself in danger but everyone around you. I hope you don't have kids and play speed racer with them in the car.
When you drive like that you are putting not only yourself in danger but everyone around you. I hope you don't have kids and play speed racer with them in the car.
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how come i only put everyone in danger at 65mph on the LIE, but not on other highways where the speed limit is higher? 55mph is not a magical safe speed. jesus christ.
I also don't get how I "legally" can go 55mph through intersections on local roads, where there are plenty of opportunities for people to also legally pull out into traffic, making right turns on red, etc. I saw it all the time on Deer Park Avenue, where 55 was the limit, but people were pulling into traffic from every direction. Yet there wasn't mass carnage all over the road.
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Increases in speed lead to more fatal accidents. We need to keep it at 55 and enforce that limit. I feel driving at 55 is my choice...I choose to obey the law and to drive safely. Its only your impatience that makes you want to drive any faster because as i have shown, time and again, you dont save any significant time. So drive slower and be safer, you will get where you are going in plenty of time.
Let ME worry about that. I don't need you and GPSM enforcing the law for the officers.
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Agreed I can't stand drivers that take it upon themselves to enforce the speed limit. If you can't keep up with the flow of traffic, move to the right... Or take a bus.
Increases in speed lead to more fatal accidents. We need to keep it at 55 and enforce that limit. I feel driving at 55 is my choice...I choose to obey the law and to drive safely. Its only your impatience that makes you want to drive any faster because as i have shown, time and again, you dont save any significant time. So drive slower and be safer, you will get where you are going in plenty of time.
Again there are more dangerous roads then the LIE that has 55 mph speed limits. Deer Park Avenue,RT 347 , RT 454 that have 55 mph speed limits The LIE could easily have the speed limit raised to 65 mph for most of its length. Most drivers in the area feel more comfortable around 65 mph. If you want to drive slower drive in the middle or right lanes that is what it is for. Left lane should be passing only and you should NOT cruise in the left lane at 55 mph.
What they should do is do a study raise the speed limit to 65 mph from Exit 40 to Exit 73 and have a study done to see if fatalities or accidents go up or not if they don't then the speed limit should be kept at 65 mph if not then they should lower it back to 55 mph.
Utah DOT (UDOT) Did just this. Utah DOT: No Downside to 80 MPH Speed Limit Increase | The Truth About Cars
They found NO INCREASE in accidents or fatalities along this stretch. Just because you like driving at 55 mph and some how it makes you feel magically safer doesn't mean it is actually safer. The 55 mph was enacted in 1974 to save gas during the oil crisis not safety
I feel though that no matter what I or anyone says in this thread you will never change your mind but if you want to drive like an old far then get into the right lane. People like that you that feel self righteous in policing everyone else actually cause more accidents then prevent them. I guess we just need to agree to disagree here because arguing with you is like talking to a brickwall
Again there are more dangerous roads then the LIE that has 55 mph speed limits. Deer Park Avenue,RT 347 , RT 454 that have 55 mph speed limits The LIE could easily have the speed limit raised to 65 mph for most of its length. Most drivers in the area feel more comfortable around 65 mph. If you want to drive slower drive in the middle or right lanes that is what it is for. Left lane should be passing only and you should NOT cruise in the left lane at 55 mph.
What they should do is do a study raise the speed limit to 65 mph from Exit 40 to Exit 73 and have a study done to see if fatalities or accidents go up or not if they don't then the speed limit should be kept at 65 mph if not then they should lower it back to 55 mph.
Utah DOT (UDOT) Did just this. Utah DOT: No Downside to 80 MPH Speed Limit Increase | The Truth About Cars
They found NO INCREASE in accidents or fatalities along this stretch. Just because you like driving at 55 mph and some how it makes you feel magically safer doesn't mean it is actually safer. The 55 mph was enacted in 1974 to save gas during the oil crisis not safety
I feel though that no matter what I or anyone says in this thread you will never change your mind but if you want to drive like an old far then get into the right lane. People like that you that feel self righteous in policing everyone else actually cause more accidents then prevent them. I guess we just need to agree to disagree here because arguing with you is like talking to a brickwall
UTAH?? How is citing a study done in UTAH, where no one feels the need to move fast at all, helpful when referring to NYC or Long Island? People in Utah, like most of the midwest, are not in a rush, that's probably why they didn't take advantage of the 5 mph increase. And I doubt there are as many cars on the roads in Utah as there are here. They probably don't even have as many busy roads as we do. Using Utah is a poor example. In NY, if we increase the speed limit another 5 mph, I bet drivers will then go over another 10 mph. Give an inch and people take a yard. The speed limit is 55, there are drivers already pushing it to 65-70. You can't force someone to drive faster but I do agree if anyone is going to drive the speed limit that they do it in the right lane. Unfortunately there are too many drivers who don't know the rules of the road.
UTAH?? How is citing a study done in UTAH, where no one feels the need to move fast at all, helpful when referring to NYC or Long Island? People in Utah, like most of the midwest, are not in a rush, that's probably why they didn't take advantage of the 5 mph increase. And I doubt there are as many cars on the roads in Utah as there are here. They probably don't even have as many busy roads as we do. Using Utah is a poor example. In NY, if we increase the speed limit another 5 mph, I bet drivers will then go over another 10 mph. Give an inch and people take a yard. The speed limit is 55, there are drivers already pushing it to 65-70. You can't force someone to drive faster but I do agree if anyone is going to drive the speed limit that they do it in the right lane. Unfortunately there are too many drivers who don't know the rules of the road.
How about DC Metro area which is comparable to LI when it comes to traffic. I95 in Virginia just south of the Beltway is 65 mph. It reminds me of the LIE but with a fancier reversible toll HOV lanes. I don't hear about carnage on the road along that stretch.
How about DC Metro area which is comparable to LI when it comes to traffic. I95 in Virginia just south of the Beltway is 65 mph. It reminds me of the LIE but with a fancier reversible toll HOV lanes. I don't hear about carnage on the road along that stretch.
When was the last time that you were on I95 south of DC? I was just down there a few months ago and the second there is a problem, traffic backs up for hours.
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