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I plan to vote Yes for all the reasons Andrea stated in her post. There is a lot of fear mongering by the "No" camp which I feel is completely unsubstantiated. Here are some hard facts:
I plan to vote Yes for all the reasons Andrea stated in her post. There is a lot of fear mongering by the "No" camp which I feel is completely unsubstantiated. Here are some hard facts:
Interesting. Reading that link leads me towards a No, not a yes.
This one trick pony argument that a Con Con is only about public employee benefits is ridiculous and proves that no one has enough of a clue what they REALLY want from an amended constitution. Contracts are binding. No convention will remove pensions or health benefits and scapegoating the whole state with that based on LI's insane salaries and benefits is foolish and backwards. LI corruption is our own making, not Albany's. We send a disproportionate number of indicted officials to do our bidding then wonder why we get hosed. Now you want to RE-ELECT and pay those same doofuses $79k to go play special interest bingo in Albany with our laws?! In THIS political climate?!?! Just plain idiotic.
If something really matters to you, get your dumb elected hack to bring an amendment and get the votes. That's the smarter play. For the .25% reduction in some hacks pension that doesn't affect you at all, you'll likely get pollution, corporate welfare, hidden taxes and fees, reduced services and another 20 years of complaining but doing nothing about it. Guarantee there will be a massive push to roll back the 2% tax cap which will kill LI'ers on school taxes again, pensions completely irregardless. Didn't think about THAT, did ya?! 17 bills already on the table to kill the tax cap. A chaotic con con isn't the best remedy for our problems, it's just another train for bandwagoneers to jump on, without a clue where it's going...and a chance for more political hacks to get paid, coming and going and us to find "surprises" we are sure we didn't vote for but are paying for.
The hysteria from the public sector regarding the CC has convinced me: vote yes. Apparently it puts their lush perks and bennies in some jeopardy.
This may be NY's last chance to save itself from financial hemorrhage.
It puts a lot of things in jeopardy. Some we like, some we don't. That's the point people seem to be missing. They think some superhero from the Nassau legislative ranks is going to go to Albany and slay collective bargaining (which helps both sides, by the way...unless you like strikes) and end pensions. It's goofy thinking at best. Stupid at worst.
Even the posts in here show nothing but division. People really have no clue that 98% of the constitution is amazing and is the bedrock of our state, one we all pretty much admit to loving and caring about...at least enough to live here voluntarily. Anyone want to discuss Foundation Aid? Fracking?
So how about some ACTUAL, TARGETED ideas of what to change? Wouldn't THAT be the first order of business. Not YES or NO, but what and why and who benefits and how much does it cost? Some want clean water. Some say that will make more legislation. Who's right? Are we 'anti water?" No, it's politics. One issue. There will be hundreds, even thousands more like it.
I don't know a single citizen (including lawyer friends) who have even the most rudimentary understanding of the State constitution...yet no one has a problem chiming in with their recommendations on how to fix it. Priceless. What could go wrong! lmfao
Frankly, unless I am elected delegate, I wouldn't trust the process at all! lmfao! Sadly though, I have to make a living to survive on LI and won't have the time and $ to go play house in Albany for 6 months. You know who does? The same useless bozos we have now.
Fear mongering... it needs to happen, but I guess we'll see who can create the best worst scenario to scare the voters. Will be interesting to watch. Every civil servant on my FB feed implores no votes like their lives depend on it.
BTW - I'm only saying it needs to happen in the context that it will be done right. There's a risk that it could be done wrong, but that argument is ludicrous to me. You don't avoid necessary surgery because you may not wake up from the anesthesia.
The NYS Constitution is available online to read before casting a vote. It is a mere 45 pages. It would behoove us to read it before making a decsion as to vote yea or nay to con-con. https://www.dos.ny.gov/info/pdfs/Constitution.pdf
Frankly, unless I am elected delegate, I wouldn't trust the process at all! lmfao! Sadly though, I have to make a living to survive on LI and won't have the time and $ to go play house in Albany for 6 months. You know who does? The same useless bozos we have now.
I would like to know what the qualifications would be to run as a con-con delegate, should this get the go ahead. If I qualified, I would run in a heartbeat.
I would like to see term limits for state politicians from the governor on down. NYS's longest-serving senator, Hugh Farley, served for 40 years from 1976 until his retirement at 83 in 2016. How can we count on any change if voters are complacent and allow the same. Locally, we have Flanagan, a career politician who took his father's seat almost straight out of law school.
I'm voting YES because the Teacher's Union tells me to vote No. That is the only reason.
I actually find this valid in most cases! They are the most powerful lobby in the state, and on LI they have mini armies of local teacher groups below NYSUT that have their own agendas.
If that's the case, why can't anyone just mention the words "Triborough Agreement" or "Taylor Laws?" That might require some actual reading. That is where the rubber meets the road. Of course, no one touches it by amendment, just like it won't get resolved by convention. It won't be resolved until political and public will MATCH and a climate of bipartisan cooperation exists. Anyone catching a whiff of that?! Not me.
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