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Old 06-30-2020, 01:58 PM
 
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This is no flu. It may be transmitted by respiratory droplets but it's nothing like any respiratory disease.

And no one who has had it thinks it's no big deal. Time and again what we're hearing is "I didn't take it seriously enough" and that's from people of all ages.

Markjames, I hope you are right!
Obviously the transmission rate and mechanism of operation are not exactly like the flu, but the death rate is, if the recent numbers are accurate. In fact it’s far less dangerous to younger people, particularly children, so in some ways the flu is actually worse since it’s more indiscriminate.

Irrespective of anecdotal evidence of people that got it and weren’t happy with the results, they are still alive to complain about it. There is a certainly a wide gap between ignoring it entirely and upending all of our lives over it, and how we move forward now that we know more about the disease should be subject to debate and discussion.

We as humans have survived far worse diseases than COVID, and you don’t have to go back to the Bubonic Plague for examples. Within the lifetimes of people still waking the earth today were horrible diseases like TB and Polio which killed and maimed on a regular basis. Vaccines are really only a 20th century solution. Before then we just accepted that life had to go on. And it does.
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Old 06-30-2020, 01:58 PM
 
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Only if those Governors do the Cuomo and send Covid-19 positive cases into nursing homes.
This the "Cuomo" a dance?
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Old 06-30-2020, 02:05 PM
 
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This the "Cuomo" a dance?
It’s a very stupid move but I wouldn’t call it a dance. Maybe sort of a two-step: Do it and then blame it on everyone and anyone.
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Old 06-30-2020, 02:09 PM
 
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This is no flu. It may be transmitted by respiratory droplets but it's nothing like any respiratory disease.

And no one who has had it thinks it's no big deal. Time and again what we're hearing is "I didn't take it seriously enough" and that's from people of all ages.

Markjames, I hope you are right!
About two million NYC residents had it and didn’t bother testing (if CDC figures are right)...almost all of them had no symptoms so you might want to revise that notion that “And no one who has had it thinks it's no big deal.’
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Old 06-30-2020, 02:11 PM
 
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Only a matter of time until the spikes all across the country filter in thru JFK, we get a 2nd wave and things are closed down.

I predict August.
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Old 06-30-2020, 02:21 PM
 
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Obviously the transmission rate and mechanism of operation are not exactly like the flu, but the death rate is, if the recent numbers are accurate.
You think 1.0% is like 0.1%?
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Old 06-30-2020, 02:55 PM
 
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You think 1.0% is like 0.1%?
You may have to update your info...(and note the ‘show symptoms’ verbiage to lower the number noted even further):

The CDC also says its "best estimate" is that 0.4% of people who show symptoms and have Covid-19 will die, and the agency estimates that 40% of coronavirus transmission is occurring before people feel sick.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/22/healt...ths/index.html

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Old 06-30-2020, 02:59 PM
 
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The Europeans that live off of tourism, specifically from US citizens, says we are unwelcome. The Chinese are going to have the place to themselves. Winning!
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Old 06-30-2020, 04:37 PM
 
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CDC says the number of infected is actually 10 times the number of positive tests. That would be 2.4M in NYC. But most sources suggest that 10 is a great underestimation for places like NYC (given number of positive tests and density and ease of transmission).

If those folks are now relatively immune, you may be on to something - and that might be part of the explanation as to why the virus is severely weakening in NYC. But, having moved on, is smacking around areas that have had very few cases. Not full herd immunity in NYC...but something related to the huge number already infected might provide part of the explanation. I heard this idea talked about by way of explanation as to why the mass NYC demonstrations did not produce mass numbers of sickened folks.
Can we wait until any kind of immunity is demonstrated scientifically before we hang our hats on it?
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Old 06-30-2020, 05:12 PM
 
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Can we wait until any kind of immunity is demonstrated scientifically before we hang our hats on it?
It’s a coronavirus. Coronaviruses have been circulating among humans for centuries. The question is not whether there is immunity (there is) its how fleeting the immunity is. We’re still within 6 months of the initial outbreak which is the low end of immunity estimates so we in NY are all reaping the benefits of NYS government’s atrocious handling of the virus in March.
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