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Old 04-10-2021, 07:15 AM
 
Location: Stony Brook
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Time to get out of NY. NY is giving $15,600 to illegal workers. WTF is happening? The world has gone nuts, especially NY. Say hi to even higher taxes, while these leachers don't pay a dime.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/08/n...rkers-nyc.html
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Old 04-10-2021, 07:29 AM
 
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Another slap in the face to those who earned over $150k and received no federal stimulus.
NYS also authorized $2.3 billion for "quality and affordable childcare" , $105 million of federal funds given to the state for full day pre-k.

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Old 04-10-2021, 07:47 AM
 
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Time to get out of NY. NY is giving $15,600 to illegal workers. WTF is happening? The world has gone nuts, especially NY. Say hi to even higher taxes, while these leachers don't pay a dime.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/08/n...rkers-nyc.html
Illegal workers work harder than anyone else.
They're "illegal" just because it's better for the system to keep them like that.
I'm sure your life style is 10 times better than theirs.
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Old 04-10-2021, 07:50 AM
 
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Illegal workers work harder than anyone else.
They're "illegal" just because it's better for the system to keep them like that.
I'm sure your life style is 10 times better than theirs.
WTF does that have to do with anything??? Think about, they are here ILLEGALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You're part of the problem.
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Old 04-10-2021, 07:59 AM
 
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/\ /\ I think the woke crew has rejected the ‘illegal immigrant’ descriptor in favor of the ‘undocumented worker’ label.

Lately, as ‘undocumented workers’ overrun the Biden border, I’ve heard the Dem’s PR firms (ABC, CNN, NYT, etc.) now use the term ‘migrants’.
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Old 04-10-2021, 08:04 AM
 
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Time to get out of NY. NY is giving $15,600 to illegal workers. WTF is happening? The world has gone nuts, especially NY. Say hi to even higher taxes, while these leachers don't pay a dime.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/08/n...rkers-nyc.html
I think there is a misunderstanding, although illegal; to qualify, they had to show paystubs, W2, that they worked and paid taxes for the full amount of $15.6k.

This is how NY is deciding to allocate the funds that the future will pay for in higher taxes. Regardless, they drive a part of the economy and small businesses with their spending. They don't have an option to save, and likely live paycheck to paycheck. That being said, once they start spending more local business benefit, small business owners hire staff again, the new employees spend and more taxes get paid back into the system.

You have to start from somewhere, otherwise; what is the better alternative? Not give, and hope the economy recovers naturally?
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Old 04-10-2021, 08:18 AM
 
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I think there is a misunderstanding, although illegal; to qualify, they had to show paystubs, W2, that they worked and paid taxes for the full amount of $15.6k.

This is how NY is deciding to allocate the funds that the future will pay for in higher taxes. Regardless, they drive a part of the economy and small businesses with their spending. They don't have an option to save, and likely live paycheck to paycheck. That being said, once they start spending more local business benefit, small business owners hire staff again, the new employees spend and more taxes get paid back into the system.

You have to start from somewhere, otherwise; what is the better alternative? Not give, and hope the economy recovers naturally?
The economy in NY is just fine. have you looked around? More nonsense replies.
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Old 04-10-2021, 08:23 AM
 
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The fact remains that if this undocumented labor pool didn't exist, we would be paying through the nose when we eat out at restaurants, and when we have our lawns mowed, our children and elderly family members cared for, our homes remodeled and repaired, and our houses cleaned. But that's another issue.

What I wonder is whether this government help to the undocumented labor pool could be handled differently. My concern is that many undocumented workers work and send their paychecks home to their families in Central America. Will they be sending $15k home, instead of spending it on local businesses? Couldn't the government, instead of giving them a check, give them an account they can draw from when they present verifiable expenditures (rent, food, utilities, etc.) that total the money amount that they are granted?
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Old 04-10-2021, 08:33 AM
 
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I think there is a misunderstanding, although illegal; to qualify, they had to show paystubs, W2, that they worked and paid taxes for the full amount of $15.6k.

This is how NY is deciding to allocate the funds that the future will pay for in higher taxes. Regardless, they drive a part of the economy and small businesses with their spending. They don't have an option to save, and likely live paycheck to paycheck. That being said, once they start spending more local business benefit, small business owners hire staff again, the new employees spend and more taxes get paid back into the system.

You have to start from somewhere, otherwise; what is the better alternative? Not give, and hope the economy recovers naturally?
What about the Americans living paycheck to paycheck? What about the American who have lost their businesses or on the verge of losing their homes? What about the American children, right here in NY, who have fallen behind in school, or who's parents couldn't afford to buy them the materials for virtual learning? What about the veterans who are languishing in VA'S without proper medical care. One could go on and on, but clearly we should only be concerned with those who shouldn't even be here in the first place.
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Old 04-10-2021, 08:37 AM
 
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The fact remains that if this undocumented labor pool didn't exist, we would be paying through the nose when we eat out at restaurants, and when we have our lawns mowed, our children and elderly family members cared for, our homes remodeled and repaired, and our houses cleaned. But that's another issue.

What I wonder is whether this government help to the undocumented labor pool could be handled differently. My concern is that many undocumented workers work and send their paychecks home to their families in Central America. Will they be sending $15k home, instead of spending it on local businesses? Couldn't the government, instead of giving them a check, give them an account they can draw from when they present verifiable expenditures (rent, food, utilities, etc.) that total the money amount that they are granted?
Cross my mind as well. Kind of like the EBT cards, but the logistics vs delays implementing could have been a barrier.

Suzook - Why is it nonsense? If you haven't spoken to someone impacted it by it, it speaks to your circle of friends and where your patron. But there are real people struggling, business closed that will not reopen. It likely gets worse once the eviction moratorium gets lifted.
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