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Old 06-10-2010, 05:32 PM
 
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And now the "Vote Yes For The Children" signs are all over the place.

I guess that all the PTO moms didn't get the memo that "its for the children" angle does not work anymore.
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Old 06-11-2010, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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And now the "Vote Yes For The Children" signs are all over the place.

I guess that all the PTO moms didn't get the memo that "its for the children" angle does not work anymore.
The PTO moms are pathetically clueless as to where the vast majority of the money is actually going. (HINT: NOT to the children!)
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Old 06-11-2010, 04:48 PM
 
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Herricks PTO mommies are pathetic and unfortunately have all drank the School District Kool Aid!

They took out a 1/2 page ad in Friday's Newsday asking taxpayers to approve the budget re-vote or else:

*Class sizes will increase
*transportation will be cut
*programs will be cut
*supplies & equipment will be cut


Its all nonsense. The Teachers & administrators basically told the taxpayers and children to "drop dead" by refusing to do the right thing by taking a meaningful salary freeze!

Taxpayers in Herricks should VOTE NO and watch the teachers union blink when layoffs will be threatened. Trust me there will be no cuts...money is always hidden in these bloated budgets and the teachers union will blink! Vote NO on Tuesday. The entice County will be watching. Send the overpaid part time teachers a strong message!
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Old 06-11-2010, 04:57 PM
 
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Here's what the part time teachers and administrators are getting paid...courtesy of the Herricks taxpayers!

Herricks USDF Bierwirth II John E $242,901
Herricks USDF Costigan Helen R $175,054
Herricks USDF Hayes Deirdre A $170,255
Herricks USDF Modoono Jane K $169,873
Herricks USDF Leccese Jr Joseph A $166,711
Herricks USDF Fryzel Mehri M $157,434
Herricks USDF Barton Donald G $153,732
Herricks USDF Bellomo Edward G $152,163
Herricks USDF Mc Neur John C $148,213
Herricks USDF Kover Andrew J $146,452
Herricks USDF Jaccarino Victor $141,854
Herricks USDF Keegan Joan A $141,712
Herricks USDF Cillis Anthony $141,487
Herricks USDF Frisone Andrew J $140,712
Herricks USDF Guercin K Elizabeth $136,152
Herricks USDF Baxter Jeannette D $134,830
Herricks USDF Haley Marylouise T $133,470
Herricks USDF Viollis Anthony M $132,992
Herricks USDF Langer de Ramirez Lori $132,592
Herricks USDF Tariche Maria C $131,755
Herricks USDF Wolski Paul I $130,369
Herricks USDF Petricca James E $129,926
Herricks USDF Sollano Rosemarie $129,595
Herricks USDF Pickman David H $129,500
Herricks USDF Fauvell Thomas C $129,377
Herricks USDF Pasatieri Diane $129,372
Herricks USDF Dorr Lori M $128,654
Herricks USDF Laudin Riza A $128,653
Herricks USDF McElroy Linda M $126,752
Herricks USDF Johnson Susan E $126,697
Herricks USDF Ball Joan S $125,945
Herricks USDF Gomez Victoria M $125,348
Herricks USDF Aird Thomas R $124,898
Herricks USDF Hughes Karen J $124,741
Herricks USDF Hayes Regina T $123,580
Herricks USDF Bourne Carol R $123,543
Herricks USDF Glasser Sally M $123,542
Herricks USDF Hoffman Barbara H $123,540
Herricks USDF Maier Madeleine M $123,503
Herricks USDF Laskey Abbie R $123,264
Herricks USDF Weinreb Janet L $123,261
Herricks USDF Mo Jade $123,251
Herricks USDF Miller Ricki I $123,217
Herricks USDF Stanco Angelo T $123,216
Herricks USDF Becker Jean J $123,002
Herricks USDF Bernstein Linda B $122,933
Herricks USDF Kalman Joann $122,897
Herricks USDF Decicco Michele R $122,253
Herricks USDF Mc Cabe Diane M $122,223
Herricks USDF Siarkowicz Jeanne $122,132
Herricks USDF Mooshian Carol V $122,089
Herricks USDF Parisi Lisa A $121,664
Herricks USDF Bogard Sharon D $121,548
Herricks USDF Ditchik-Stutz Joanne $121,299
Herricks USDF Donnell Lillian K $121,101
Herricks USDF Otto Gisela P $120,851
Herricks USDF Jorisch Sylvia D $120,542
Herricks USDF Klatch Michele $120,542
Herricks USDF Fishlow Sophia $120,542
Herricks USDF Degliomini Nidya $120,482
Herricks USDF Iaconis Agnese $120,328
Herricks USDF Richards Ellen M $120,191
Herricks USDF Siber Ellen A $119,895
Herricks USDF Nadler Marcia R $119,895
Herricks USDF Szybillo Anita A $119,895
Herricks USDF Sacks Maria $119,895
Herricks USDF Mormile Gina A $119,895
Herricks USDF Solosky Donna M $119,714
Herricks USDF Guerriero-Walsh Suzanne M $119,700
Herricks USDF Morales Jane M $119,653
Herricks USDF Allen Marilyn G $119,614
Herricks USDF Ruggiano Jodie A $119,614
Herricks USDF Heckinger Glenn R $119,529
Herricks USDF Agoglia Jean A $119,226
Herricks USDF DeSarbo Joanne C $118,165
Herricks USDF Bambrick-Oriani Deirdre A $118,081
Herricks USDF Walker Deborah L $117,822
Herricks USDF Grabowski Jr William M $117,487
Herricks USDF Judge Sharon A $117,380
Herricks USDF Pasquier Michel J $117,364
Herricks USDF Azzara Mark C $117,324
Herricks USDF Lule Jean M $117,308
Herricks USDF Wymbs Maryanna H $117,308
Herricks USDF Jacobs Melissa A $117,308
Herricks USDF Cooper David R $117,153
Herricks USDF Grogan Christine $117,020
Herricks USDF Lesak Alan M $116,843
Herricks USDF Dugan Joy L $116,500
Herricks USDF Germann Jane B $116,468
Herricks USDF Hopkins Roberta E $116,073
Herricks USDF Finkelstein Cheryl $116,031
Herricks USDF Seymour Ellen L $115,748
Herricks USDF Olsen Leslie J $115,486
Herricks USDF Guarini Maryellen $115,446
Herricks USDF Bucher Denise J $115,396
Herricks USDF Williams Beth V $115,117
Herricks USDF Filaseta Hope D $114,301
Herricks USDF Carbery Valerie $113,998
Herricks USDF Turkel Stephanie E $113,829
Herricks USDF Miller-Passero Mary K $113,807
Herricks USDF Dandrilli Susan $113,581
Herricks USDF Barth Eileen $113,462
Herricks USDF Turkel Alan N $113,462
Herricks USDF Vollrath Lorraine $113,462
Herricks USDF Carra Frank A $113,462
Herricks USDF Korder Jo N $113,248
Herricks USDF Wolin Anna Sabat $113,182
Herricks USDF Lumaban Rosario G $113,134
Herricks USDF Decelie Jr Frank R $113,130
Herricks USDF Rainis Rosanne $112,933
Herricks USDF Berkson Rhoda F $112,799
Herricks USDF Spiegel Jill S $112,751
Herricks USDF Russell Deborah A $112,687
Herricks USDF Curran Brendan J $112,685
Herricks USDF Wolf Rhonda J $112,545
Herricks USDF Soriento Teri F $112,366
Herricks USDF Demarco Lillian M $112,336
Herricks USDF Jahelka Patricia $112,286
Herricks USDF Donovan Cheryl B $112,286
Herricks USDF Bellusci Janet A $112,286
Herricks USDF Antar Sandie F $112,286
Herricks USDF Paris Patricia T $112,119
Herricks USDF Maddox Robin A $111,443
Herricks USDF Tory Leslie $111,323
Herricks USDF Alaimo Laura $111,236
Herricks USDF Weis Krista M $110,769
Herricks USDF Barshak Allison Bianco $110,449
Herricks USDF Diliberto Giacomo $110,342
Herricks USDF Basile Patricia A $110,334
Herricks USDF O'Hanlon Louise E $110,318
Herricks USDF Barcia Renee $109,973
Herricks USDF Soloway Jerome $109,571
Herricks USDF Knowles Stephanie S $109,007
Herricks USDF Krinsky Tara M $108,777
Herricks USDF Stickley Scott B $108,666
Herricks USDF Basso Donna L $108,416
Herricks USDF Freeman Ronald $108,416
Herricks USDF Leonard Alysa L $108,416
Herricks USDF Ganes Richard $107,969
Herricks USDF Lichte-Mattner Virginia Lr $107,477
Herricks USDF Rosenman Beth I $107,224
Herricks USDF Moody Dianne S $106,864
Herricks USDF Jensen Marianne G $106,580
Herricks USDF Fabian Susan J $105,848
Herricks USDF Downes-Sabo Moira A $105,848
Herricks USDF Finkle Hannah R $105,161
Herricks USDF Gangji Al-Karim H $105,149
Herricks USDF Paolucci Janine $104,995
Herricks USDF Walkup Betsy S $104,989
Herricks USDF Franciscovich Daniel $104,989
Herricks USDF Morando Sharon M $104,792
Herricks USDF Commisso Claude $104,775
Herricks USDF Thompson Jodi E $104,640
Herricks USDF Arralde Joseph A $104,428
Herricks USDF Sevilla Richard M $103,594
Herricks USDF Costello Yma $103,223
Herricks USDF Quintyne Susan J $103,208
Herricks USDF Desimone Tania H $103,069
Herricks USDF Mc Mullan Debra $102,709
Herricks USDF Kaplan Michelle G $102,696
Herricks USDF Heller Jill A $102,696
Herricks USDF Bikoff Amy G $101,999
Herricks USDF Milmerstadt Francesca L $101,955
Herricks USDF Linscott Deborah $101,801
Herricks USDF Gabriel Pascale $101,762
Herricks USDF Brown Annegret J $101,740
Herricks USDF Evers Heather J $101,655
Herricks USDF Baier Thomas J $101,342
Herricks USDF Hillebrand Angela $101,049
Herricks USDF Gordon Julia R $100,711
Herricks USDF Kliegman Karen S $100,663
Herricks USDF Semerdjian Alan C $99,998
Herricks USDF Hauck Mary $99,967
Herricks USDF Hart Theresa M $99,959
Herricks USDF Blank Pamela C $99,799
Herricks USDF Arnold Anissa J $99,578
Herricks USDF Peterson Eileen M $99,441
Herricks USDF Brogan Christopher W $99,275
Herricks USDF Stevens David G $99,070
Herricks USDF McManus Melissa A $99,052
Herricks USDF Wilkolaski Scott T $99,029
Herricks USDF Morin Jeanine $99,011
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Old 06-12-2010, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Suffolk
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The PTO moms are pathetically clueless as to where the vast majority of the money is actually going. (HINT: NOT to the children!)

First I'd say that your comment is pathetically clueless, but then I guess it depends on where you live. I've been involved for over 30 years in my district and the PTA mothers and fathers are very keyed in to what is going on financially in the district. The problem in many places lies with the fact that information isn't shared with the families in the PTA unit. Meaning, the PTA president etc is supposed to get lots of info from the district admin during Council meetings and board meetings and they are supposed to bring that info back to the parents at the next PTA meeting. Doesn't always happen.

If you've got a bunch of "mommies" that do nothing but fundraisers all year, then you've got a pathetically clueless community.

I say it is the individual's responsibility to get all the information they need to make an informed decision at budget time, or any other time.
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Old 06-12-2010, 02:46 PM
 
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You know what, the PTA/PTO moms and dads are neither pathetic nor clueless and the fundraising work they do should be applauded. They are simply caught between a rock and a hard place- the cuts that the school districts and administration are allowed to make instead of cleaning up their act immediately and deeply affect their children. Unless we all get together and petition for better school accountability, school consolidation, and changes to the laws all this disgust for the wastefulness, nepotism, and insulation that surrounds most school districts is a waste. It will never change unless you are protesting as a group.
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Old 06-13-2010, 07:47 AM
 
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You know what, the PTA/PTO moms and dads are neither pathetic nor clueless and the fundraising work they do should be applauded. They are simply caught between a rock and a hard place- the cuts that the school districts and administration are allowed to make instead of cleaning up their act immediately and deeply affect their children. Unless we all get together and petition for better school accountability, school consolidation, and changes to the laws all this disgust for the wastefulness, nepotism, and insulation that surrounds most school districts is a waste. It will never change unless you are protesting as a group.
With the huge amount of money in School District Budgets it amazes me that parents need to be doing fund raises? Perhaps they should be asking "where the hell are all those millions of dollars going?"

ANSWER: Into teachers & administrators pockets!
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Old 06-13-2010, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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With the huge amount of money in School District Budgets it amazes me that parents need to be doing fund raises? Perhaps they should be asking "where the hell are all those millions of dollars going?"

ANSWER: Into teachers & administrators pockets!
The most powerful unions on LI must all use the same playbook:

http://www.city-data.com/forum/14584138-post1.html

Quote:
Translate: if you don't want to pay us 140K a year, criminals in black wool caps will be breaking into your house and no one will come to save you
In this case:

TRANSLATE: WE get all we want BEFORE your school district budget goes to a vote. Your kids get the crumbs. If you don't want your kids to suffer, dig deeper in your pockets and vote YES on the budget.
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Old 06-14-2010, 05:38 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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First I'd say that your comment is pathetically clueless, but then I guess it depends on where you live. I've been involved for over 30 years in my district and the PTA mothers and fathers are very keyed in to what is going on financially in the district. The problem in many places lies with the fact that information isn't shared with the families in the PTA unit. Meaning, the PTA president etc is supposed to get lots of info from the district admin during Council meetings and board meetings and they are supposed to bring that info back to the parents at the next PTA meeting. Doesn't always happen.

If you've got a bunch of "mommies" that do nothing but fundraisers all year, then you've got a pathetically clueless community.

I say it is the individual's responsibility to get all the information they need to make an informed decision at budget time, or any other time.
I don’t think the PTA is the correct group for getting information out on the budget. There are BOE budget meetings throughout the year but surprisingly little information is made available. The public should be made aware of what is happening relative to budget particularly teachers and administration contracts over the course of the year. I can guarantee that you can go to the minutes of the BOE in any district and will see nothing in the way of the budget.

If these BOE’s continue to ignore the reality of the world they are asking for trouble, no one wants to punish the students but these constant increases are getting intolerable.
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Old 06-14-2010, 03:27 PM
 
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RE:I don’t think the PTA is the correct group for getting information out on the budget.

Your right. The PTO's are really the political arm of the Superintendent's & School Boards. They routinley drink massive amounts of Kool Aid especially when its budget time. Has anyone ever heard of a PTO not promoting the School Budget?
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