Report Finds a Los Angeles on the Brink (for sale, real estate)

[Gurbie]

Originally Posted by Eugene80

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/10/us...ecline.html?hp

You need to read this article in Weds LA Times: Los Angeles 2020 Commission calls for changes to improve the city - latimes.com

The commision released thirteen recommendations to turn LA around. Basically, they amount to creating MORE commissions, to look into things like city pension costs and the DWP.

Among the concrete proposals- raise the minimum wage, and combine the Ports of LA and Long Beach into one mega port (which is kinda like telling the Dodgers and angels they should merge).

The commission chairman is described as a "one-time mayoral candidate", which should give you an idea what's up here.

[RaymondChandlerLives]

Yawn.

Job creation (Febuary 2014)
Los Angeles MSA: 36,100
NY/NJ/CT: 10,000

Since New York's key industries recieved a massive bailout five years ago, job growth in the region has been anemic at best. Now it is Los Angeles that is outpacing NYC for growth. The NY Times can shove it.

[The Illusive Man]

Originally Posted by RaymondChandlerLives

Yawn.

Job creation (Febuary 2014)
Los Angeles MSA: 36,100
NY/NJ/CY: 10,000

Since New York's key industries recieved a massive bailout five years ago, job growth in the region has been anemic at best. Now it is Los Angeles that is outpacing NYC for growth. The NY Times can shove it.

Damn straight!

[Ghostgecko]

I've been here for five years, and having lived around the country, the same problems do exist in other cities, but moreso in tourism-centered cities, and the changing face of ownership and wealth. Don't fool yourself, everyone has been saying for years coast to coast, that "things are not like they used to be…" And I agree, that's because time has passed. While I don't agree that it's easy to live here, that housing and jobs are easily found, for anyone who plans to get ahead and build a real life and retirement, live healthy, a person who is looking to live simply can stay here forever, if they are happy.

But, then again, we have to decide what makes us happy. Some of us just want to have the hills home, some of us want to own the hills, and then there's me, the person who just wants a tiny 1/2 an acre of ocean and mountain overlook in Topanga for $60k, which does exist, but the size home they want to build and live in- is too small. The idea of perpetuated failure in LA is truly a myth of great proportions, the greater truth would be that it's reflected across the country, and of course the larger cities would show it much more adamantly with larger populations and disparity of income. That just makes sense. But to prove my point, smaller, rural communities which lose large basis of employment quickly fall into disarray. Had the situation not be one of failure, this would not happen, for people would compete for them as employees. When they have nowhere to go, they lose.

But that's why we haven't lost yet in the bigger cities, because there are plenty of places for people to bounce, keep on with the quiet desperation of trying to find a good life, and more jobs are available. That being said, given the attitude of people here and the decency, (not all of us) I would HATE to be here when that infrastructure does crumble, cause it would get ugly very, very fast…and I would love anyone to challenge that who lives here.

[quixotic59]

Originally Posted by ExeterMedia

Thank you liberals.

You missed the mark: Thank you Wall Street hustlers.

[YoungTraveler2011]

LA needs to be more business friendly and the government needs to stop wasting so much $ on people who don't deserve it.

Libs gonna lib.

[Des-Lab]

As long as LA continues to have nice weather, tasty fish tacos, Mongolian art museums, and interracial dating, everything else is just Debbie-Downer nitpicking.

[nslander]

Originally Posted by Ghostgecko

I've been here for five years, and having lived around the country, the same problems do exist in other cities, but moreso in tourism-centered cities, and the changing face of ownership and wealth. Don't fool yourself, everyone has been saying for years coast to coast, that "things are not like they used to be…" And I agree, that's because time has passed. While I don't agree that it's easy to live here, that housing and jobs are easily found, for anyone who plans to get ahead and build a real life and retirement, live healthy, a person who is looking to live simply can stay here forever, if they are happy.

But, then again, we have to decide what makes us happy. Some of us just want to have the hills home, some of us want to own the hills, and then there's me, the person who just wants a tiny 1/2 an acre of ocean and mountain overlook in Topanga for $60k, which does exist, but the size home they want to build and live in- is too small. The idea of perpetuated failure in LA is truly a myth of great proportions, the greater truth would be that it's reflected across the country, and of course the larger cities would show it much more adamantly with larger populations and disparity of income. That just makes sense. But to prove my point, smaller, rural communities which lose large basis of employment quickly fall into disarray. Had the situation not be one of failure, this would not happen, for people would compete for them as employees. When they have nowhere to go, they lose.

But that's why we haven't lost yet in the bigger cities, because there are plenty of places for people to bounce, keep on with the quiet desperation of trying to find a good life, and more jobs are available. That being said, given the attitude of people here and the decency, (not all of us) I would HATE to be here when that infrastructure does crumble, cause it would get ugly very, very fast…and I would love anyone to challenge that who lives here.

I can't challege that, largely because it's unclear what you mean by "infrastructure".

[jen5276]

Originally Posted by Mr_Geek

On second thought...

The article is spot on.

Not sure what to make of that.....

[pbergen]

Originally Posted by yamota

waiting for that first "New York biased article" response. Ooops, I think I just did it

lol is it me, or do you live to troll the LA forum? seriously, every single one of your posts on this board is a smart aleck wisecrack or putdown of some sort toward anything related to LA, but without any genuine insight about the subject at hand. no one's ever called you out on your antics (probably b/c native angelenos tend to be a laid-back bunch), but i'm a not-so-laid-back native of the other coast and thus less willing to overlook the childish attempts at provocation that sometimes take place on this board by the legions of bored LA haters.

the funny thing is, this isn't even close to being your most immature post on the LA forum. its just the first time i've decided to call you out.

i'd ask for your opinion about the validity of the report, but i know you're not going to read it or contribute a remotely meaningful response.

so yeah, keep on doing what you've been doing. must be very fulfilling to troll complete strangers on the internet.