Coronavirus in Massachusetts (Boston: allergens, low income, apartment)

[BostonMike7]

Originally Posted by Cantabridgienne

Can you honestly say you would have cancelled your Thanksgiving dinner had one of your children woken up with a runny nose?

Honestly, I’d shrug it off and say “it’s winter, noses run”. And 9 times out of 10 that’s all it would be.

[porterhouse]

Originally Posted by Cantabridgienne

Can you honestly say you would have cancelled your Thanksgiving dinner had one of your children woken up with a runny nose?

Yes, without a doubt. My father passed years ago. I’m not looking to lose my mother.

[GeoffD]

Originally Posted by redplum33

The spread is everywhere now. Finger pointing at this point is pointless.

But how did we get here? The local governors allowed this to happen.

No. We got here because self-centered morons ignored very well communicated public health messaging. The NY Times epidemiologist survey of a couple days ago reports most are running errands with masks and doing things outdoors with friends. They’re not eating in indoor restaurants and they’re not indoors without masks ignoring distancing. They keep to their small bubble of immediate family and closest friends who are all in the same bubble. That’s how we’ve been living our lives since March. Among other things, it’s our civic duty.

[Dm84]

Originally Posted by GeoffD

No. We got here because self-centered morons ignored very well communicated public health messaging. The NY Times epidemiologist survey of a couple days ago reports most are running errands with masks and doing things outdoors with friends. They’re not eating in indoor restaurants and they’re not indoors without masks ignoring distancing. They keep to their small bubble of immediate family and closest friends who are all in the same bubble. That’s how we’ve been living our lives since March. Among other things, it’s our civic duty.

To be perfectly blunt, most people are lying.

They may wear a mask in public, but many restaurants have been packed and many many people are having friends over inside.

[rach5]

Originally Posted by GeoffD

No. We got here because self-centered morons ignored very well communicated public health messaging. The NY Times epidemiologist survey of a couple days ago reports most are running errands with masks and doing things outdoors with friends. They’re not eating in indoor restaurants and they’re not indoors without masks ignoring distancing. They keep to their small bubble of immediate family and closest friends who are all in the same bubble. That’s how we’ve been living our lives since March. Among other things, it’s our civic duty.

I disagree that public health messaging has been well communicated. Just regarding masks, there was the initial messaging from we don't need them, to wear them to protect others, to wear them to protect yourself. At the highest level of our government, the message has been that your civic duty is not to wear masks, and inconsistent messaging whether herd immunity is the way to go. Even now, public messaging is inconsistent. In RI, where we are pretty much the worst in the nation according to some reports, the message is you can go out to restaurants and malls, but not have a single person over in your house. The trusted CDC was turned into a political toy and thrust aside for much of the pandemic etc. I could go on and on. There are a few nations in the world where it appears public messaging has been consistent since the beginning, but we are not one of them. It's not like the messaging that smoking kills I was exposed to as a kid.

Epidemiologists know by years of training what harm a pandemic causes to themselves and their country, and so I suspect many of them were not lying (it does not look good politically right now to not send your kids to school, but most of them said the do not or would not in that survey, which would suggest truthful reporting).

[Charlie&Rose]

Originally Posted by BostonMike7

Honestly, I’d shrug it off and say “it’s winter, noses run”. And 9 times out of 10 that’s all it would be.

And this is why the numbers are so high. People only thinking about themselves.

[BostonMike7]

Originally Posted by marcandme

And this is why the numbers are so high. People only thinking about themselves.

Right, but the correct course of action is not realistic for many households, for many reasons. Sometimes selfish, and sometimes because they have no choice.

[msRB311]

Well we should have known this was going to spread the way it has since there seem to be so many people out there who can't stay home. It seems like many of your are forgiving of this? I guess i'm in the if you have corona you still stay home even if it means not getting paid.

I still find it weird that so many were overly critical of healthy people having close family in their home but you can understand why others were unable to quarantine because of corona. 'Unable' is always kind of up in the air. I'm sure there are simply selfish people out there who didn't quarantine and weren't just in dire straights.

[lrfox]

Originally Posted by msRB311

I still find it weird that so many were overly critical of healthy people having close family in their home but you can understand why others were unable to quarantine because of corona. 'Unable' is always kind of up in the air. I'm sure there are simply selfish people out there who didn't quarantine and weren't just in dire straights.

I find it weird that you're still hung up on this and that you can't seem to understand that criticism and understanding aren't mutually exclusive. It's really not that hard to understand why people do certain things while also being able to criticize those things if they're done irresponsibly.

[msRB311]

I just dont think it's cool if people are out and about with coronavirus regardless of the situation.