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Old 03-01-2020, 05:48 PM
 
Location: North Dakota
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I would add racial tensions to that list. White folks are a minority in Hawaii, though Maui is probably the whitest island. Being a minority and everything that comes with it in Hawaii doesn't sit well with some. Not sure if it forces people to move but certainly can be an issue. I wouldn't underestimate island fever. Even local kids leave because of it. Living is different than visiting. It's not a perpetual vacation and eventually the shine and excitement wears off.
The last two sentences need to be repeated in lots of places. I saw the same attitude living in Montana. People fell in love with it on vacation and soon realized you still need to work, deal with a boss, deal with cost of living, kids' education, and make new friends. These "paradise" locations are not always as great as they seem.
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Old 03-02-2020, 05:17 AM
 
Location: Haiku
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The last two sentences need to be repeated in lots of places. I saw the same attitude living in Montana. People fell in love with it on vacation and soon realized you still need to work, deal with a boss, deal with cost of living, kids' education, and make new friends. These "paradise" locations are not always as great as they seem.
The grass is always greener on the other side of the hill.
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Old 03-02-2020, 05:29 AM
 
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The grass is always greener on the other side of the hill.
Especially when you're wearing rose colored glasses.
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Old 03-02-2020, 12:55 PM
 
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Unkempt sums it up nicely. Sad, though.
Meh. Not sad, just different than your standards.
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Old 03-02-2020, 02:37 PM
 
Location: High Desert
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Mxg67 Wrote: Living is different than visiting. It's not a perpetual vacation and eventually the shine and excitement wears off.


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The last two sentences need to be repeated in lots of places. I saw the same attitude living in Montana. People fell in love with it on vacation and soon realized you still need to work, deal with a boss, deal with cost of living, kids' education, and make new friends. These "paradise" locations are not always as great as they seem.

^Very true. For a lot of people I think it is part of the vacation experience to imagine the "what if" I moved here...this could be my lifestyle, etc. Then to go on to compare and contrast the place to where you are original from, or other places they you've spent time visiting, or living.

Obviously your mindset on vacation (if you're doing it right) is a lot more relaxed and stress free. If you're not working, paying bills, dealing with problem friends or relatives, etc. You're in a bubble. I love that bubble, but it rarely stops me from noticing the negatives of the location. A lot of the negatives can be attributed to a segment of the population (those living there, and those also visiting), other negatives might be part of the geographic location, etc. You almost always get a more realistic view of a place the more times you revisit it. There are places in Hawaii, as well as other places where I have seen both the shine and the not so shiny bits. Reality creeps in especially if you are really trekking around to see as much of the place as you can during your visit.
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Old 03-02-2020, 03:53 PM
 
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Meh. Not sad, just different than your standards.
Nope different AND sad, very sad.
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Old 03-02-2020, 04:44 PM
 
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Nope different AND sad, very sad.
Doesn't look sad to me, looks like working people just living their lives. You'll find them all over the states, and the world. Many are quite content and happy people.
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Old 03-02-2020, 06:03 PM
 
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Doesn't look sad to me, looks like working people just living their lives. You'll find them all over the states, and the world. Many are quite content and happy people.
I get you can be content and happy without living in a perfect, manicured community. Latin America is like that....but still....is it really that much effort to have some nice plants out in front and not park the cars in the front yard? Yes, I get parts of the island are dry, but there are low maintenance, low water use plants.

Like I said, Tucson, AZ was the same way, and I just never understood why people let things be so unkempt.

Your surroundings do have an effect on your psyche.
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Old 03-02-2020, 06:06 PM
 
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Doesn't look sad to me, looks like working people just living their lives. You'll find them all over the states, and the world. Many are quite content and happy people.
Slovenly, and prideless, to a T.
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Old 03-02-2020, 06:35 PM
 
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Slovenly, and prideless, to a T.
Over the years I've traveled far and wide to many, many places, both in and well beyond the US.

Slovenly and unkempt never looked 'charming' no matter where it was.
IMO it often is the harbinger of 'unclean'.

I live in a wonderful, beautiful and well kept community now.
It gets it's share of out of state visitors but is a great place to live.
I am blessed and hope the OP chooses wisely.
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