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Someone saying they’re “not a morning person” is just an a-hole. How can a person be considered mentally stable and “good” if they are obnoxious for the first 5hrs they’re awake each day, regardless of what is going on in their life?
Also, for some perspective OP, go to a gym at 5am and count how many men vs women…
Ok, for the 'larks' are these 'downers' grumpy when left alone?
I'm not a morning person, but I'm fine as long as you aren't in my face with excessive noise, over the top cheery greetings and chatter, and an insistence that your way of being is somehow superior to my way of being. Obnoxious can run both ways.
After hanging around on this planet for 9 decades now, and mixing with all sorts of people, all I can say is that emotional states such as chirpiness or grumpiness are temporary. I find that most people are in a neutral state most of the time when life is 'normal'.
I usually wake without an alarm about 5.30 AM or 6.00 AM, get dressed, get a cup of tea ready for my myself and have things ready for my wife to pour her own when she wakes up -- usually about an hour after me. I check my emails and maybe check this 'City Data' site.
Chirpiness of grumpiness don't come into the issue unless there's a problem or an issue to attend to that day, or at the other end of the spectrum, a special treat that day.
I know that some people have a lag time waking up after a deep sleep and this may be mistaken for grumpiness.
Do some people really wake up singing and whistling to greet each new 'normal' day?
Ok, for the 'larks' are these 'downers' grumpy when left alone?
I'm not a morning person, but I'm fine as long as you aren't in my face with excessive noise, over the top cheery greetings and chatter, and an insistence that your way of being is somehow superior to my way of being. Obnoxious can run both ways.
This, a million times. I am a morning person, but I cannot abide chatter and in my face cheerfulness —really any time, but certainly not in the morning.
When did “larks” decide that’s the superior approach? And what would your reaction be if an “owl” treated you at 11pm the way you treat them in the morning?
Notmy experience at all in regards to it being gender related. In fact my husband's (male) business partner is annoyingly peppy in their 7:30 am zoom calls.
Mornings are a downer. Good for you that you're a morning person. Lucky you. Not everyone is.
You say you go to bed when you're tired. How do you feel if someone keeps you up until 2 a.m., though? Non-morning people don't have a choice about getting up when they want like you have a choice about when you go to bed.
I don't think it's too much to ask that if someone is not in a good mood in the morning, they can at least refrain from snarking or generally being in a bad mood, thereby causing distress for the lark.
I'm the same as you. I like to get up early and start my day quietly and ease in to it. I am not available before 2pm at my new part time job because being retirement age I would find it very difficult to give up those precious hours.
I will echo the thoughts of a couple of other posters here. I consider myself to be a morning person in that I actually love to be up and moving very early. But I am NOT wanting to interact with other people. There is something about the sound of human voices talking that causes me feelings of irritation within the first couple of hours or so after I get up. I'm not talking "noon" here I mean like 6-8AM or so. I can easily make sure I have enough time to be functional in that respect before I need to be at work, but I would not be happy with housemates who wanted to have normal conversations that early.
I am not grumpy. I just want peace and quiet. Let me watch a sunrise with my coffee and no chatter and my mood will be glorious. Oddly, a favorite thing I like to do very early in the AM is housework. It is just the right kind of "no talk, just do" for me. I do the dishes every day around 6am while my coffee is brewing. I guess doing "auto pilot" through the tasks as a matter of basic routine, without thinking about it too much, short circuits my otherwise likely tendency to procrastinate or see it as a huge nuisance.
I dunno, I think this might be a compatibility problem that people should have honest conversations about if they want to share living space. But in order to do that, no one can approach it as, "I'm right and you're wrong" when it's just two different ways of people's brains working. I would not want to live with someone who would encounter me before 8am and need to be all chattery. I find it stressful.
Ok, for the 'larks' are these 'downers' grumpy when left alone?
I'm not a morning person, but I'm fine as long as you aren't in my face with excessive noise, over the top cheery greetings and chatter, and an insistence that your way of being is somehow superior to my way of being. Obnoxious can run both ways.
It is what it is. I do wonder why it is that so many men are grouchy in the morning.
Man here, never grouchy. I'm also an early riser.
My wife is definitely not a morning person. She used to be occasionally grouchy in the AM but has managed to overcome that flaw. Neither one of us is especially "chatty" at any time.
Thanks for all the responses. I'm glad Arktikos that your wife realized she needed to alter her behavior somewhat.
I'm not chatty in the morning. I too want peace and quiet like some others here (Sonic and others). When I applied for jobs recently I put that I was not available before noon. I need that special quiet me time because for me, mornings are magical.
I love the early morning with birds singing, and the cool air, and things being peaceful and quiet. It's really a downer when you ask a question that needs to be asked and you get a sour response. I don't think it's too much to ask for someone to be courteous. It's not like I'm trying to have a conversation.
As for being kept up late by a night owl, my body literally crashes so good luck keeping me awake! But I don't snark at people trying to keep me awake. And I've only experienced that a few times.
I think that maybe a lot of women just sleep longer and then get up when they are "done" sleeping while men get up even though they are not mentally ready yet?
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