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Old 07-28-2017, 10:57 AM
 
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He's just asking why they don't want to learn English. We all understand Mexico can do what they want in their country.

Most countries that rely a lot on tourism and trade, make foreign languages a priority in education. Mexico does a lot of tourism and trade.
You guys are being completely ridiculous. You're making broad generalizations from the employees of a single McDonald's in Tijuana. How is that possibly representative? Also, it's completely possible that many would like to learn English, but you know... work at places like McDonald's and can't afford expensive ESL classes. Most schools in Mexico teach basic English, but just like foreign-language classes in the US, outside of college, few students retain much of it because it's rare that they would use it.
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Old 07-28-2017, 11:04 AM
 
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Is it so strange? I guess your native language is English.
For most (young) people in the world, learning a foreign language (to some extent) is the norm.
The vast majority of Americans do not know any foreign language. Most of the world may take a few classes here or there, but that's a lot different than saying they can hold a real conversation.
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Old 07-28-2017, 11:18 AM
 
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He must really hate the word "up"

Get up
Screw up
wind up
tie up
go up
fix up
straighten up
warm up
fire up
light up

And let's not even get into the word "set" which has like 150 different uses.

Phrasal verbs are a nightmare for non-English speakers.
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Old 07-28-2017, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Axixic, Jalisco, MX
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I have said many times that I talked to local people in TJ and quite a few young people I talked to spoke next to zero English, which was a surprise to me. Why can't you just understand it?
It's probably like the wife of the Japanese Prime Minister, remember that she pretended she didn't speak English when she was with the Trumps but she is fluent?

I've lived in Mexico for 12 years and barely speak any Spanish, yet non-English speaking Mexicans try very hard to communicate with me.

English is harder to learn than Spanish.
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Old 07-28-2017, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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It is not just the border areas. English speakers are also not as commonly found in Mexico City as in a large European city. I've met people whose job is to deal with visitors at the Presidential Palace who do not know enough English to tell me where the bath room is. There are also major, touristy museums like the one in Chapultepec that had staff who spoke almost no English. Some of these sites even lack English signs.
Comparable institutions in Europe and Asia would have staff with basic English knowledge.
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Old 07-29-2017, 02:01 PM
 
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No effort in code switching sometimes does not mean they don't speak any English. It's just that they want you to switch to their language or make some effort.
Well, it is their country.

We are, at best, guests.
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Old 07-29-2017, 03:20 PM
 
Location: So. of Rosarito, Baja, Mexico
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Years ago I lost my Passport after arriving in MC.
Next day took a Taxi to the US Consulate where a young Mexican girl understood my problem and I was taken upstairs where a letter was typed verifying that I was a US citizen for the Mexican Migra at the Airport.

Fast forward to the old US Consulate in TJ. Half dozen M/F Mexican Security? at the front window..
....No speak English.

How is an American supposed to get inside for any help?

They did get across to me that I had to phone for an appointment...how nice.

If your robbed, no money or Passport, still have to phone for an appointment.

A US Consulate needs to have at least ONE person at the front window or Entrance that is fluid in English.
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Old 07-30-2017, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Nebraska
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It's not what I'm asking. Read my post.
I did read your post. You wonder why Mexican citizens serving American citizens in McDonalds in a border town do not know how to speak English. My question for you is "why should they?" Tijuana is in Mexico correct? English is not the official language of Mexico. Is it? It seems very disrespectful to me to expect a Mexican to speak English in Mexico. If you want to visit in Mexico at least have SOME respect for the locals and learn a few basic words in the common language, a
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Old 07-31-2017, 01:50 PM
 
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A US Consulate needs to have at least ONE person at the front window or Entrance that is fluid in English.
But that is fault of the US Consulate, how is that now with Trump everything is Mexico fault?
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Old 07-31-2017, 02:33 PM
 
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I did read your post. You wonder why Mexican citizens serving American citizens in McDonalds in a border town do not know how to speak English. My question for you is "why should they?" Tijuana is in Mexico correct? English is not the official language of Mexico. Is it? It seems very disrespectful to me to expect a Mexican to speak English in Mexico. If you want to visit in Mexico at least have SOME respect for the locals and learn a few basic words in the common language, a
It's what I posted more than once in this thread! SMH, TJ is in Mexico! WTF does the OP want!? And BTW, if one cannot decipher the McDonald's menu with all the pictures for EVERY item, then I don't know what to say!
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