Miami to create homeless camp on Virginia Key? (transplants, how much)

[MiamiLIFE]

Originally Posted by WilliamInMiami

I work with homeless people. Half of them are drug addicts. When night falls the homeless drug addicts hit the neighborhoods looking for anything they can steal to feed their habit. In fact, 50% of all crime is drug related whether it be possession or trying to get money to buy drugs. In the Jose Marti Park area there are numerous thefts, car break ins, stabbings and assaults every night. Desperate homeless drug addicts roam the streets til morning terrorizing the neighborhood.
This is why I believe Miami should enact a no camping ordinance like Key West, except for designated areas. These areas should be away from the neighborhoods to protect citizens from crime, but still be near public transportation and a store.
That is why I said the city has the right idea but wrong location.

I saw this firsthand in San Diego. They call them "tweakers". San Diego is a very pretty city with "tweakers" wandering around everywhere and in the evening the break into homes and cars to steal small items to sell for drugs. Hopefully, this utopian vision implemented in San Diego doesn't come to Miami.

[Corrie22]

Originally Posted by MiamiLIFE

I'd also add that Daily Mail, sadly, does much better reporting than any US new outlets. Fox, CNN, MSNBC, NewsNation? Vomit.

yep....much much better.....more accurate...and more detail

[elchevere]

Oh God I hope not….by the time I left San Diego at the end of 2016 I was referring to it as “Americas Finest (Tent) City….and a citywide hepatitis epidemic broke out shortly thereafter.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...iego?_amp=true

Originally Posted by MiamiLIFE

I saw this firsthand in San Diego. They call them "tweakers". San Diego is a very pretty city with "tweakers" wandering around everywhere and in the evening the break into homes and cars to steal small items to sell for drugs. Hopefully, this utopian vision implemented in San Diego doesn't come to Miami.

[WilliamInMiami]

Originally Posted by MiamiLIFE

I saw this firsthand in San Diego. They call them "tweakers". San Diego is a very pretty city with "tweakers" wandering around everywhere and in the evening the break into homes and cars to steal small items to sell for drugs. Hopefully, this utopian vision implemented in San Diego doesn't come to Miami.

But that is what the left wants. Look at Nancy Pelosi's district in San Francisco. Miles of homeless tents, drugs, crime, and to the point where you have to watch where you step to avoid syringes and feces. Pelosi can pass any bill she wants to clean it up if she wanted to because there is not one Republican between her and the President. Same at the state level, totally democrat controlled. Yet look at the hell hole they created. To them it's progress.

[beach43ofus]

Sound of Crickets chirping....am I the only one here who can think out of the box? Let's hear some other alternative ideas that are totally new...what we are doing now is a disaster.

Originally Posted by beach43ofus

I've often thought that people who do not want to engage in society, & contribute, should not be allowed to benefit from it, & live amongst us.

Remember the Pilgrims who tried to grow food in community gardens, and members of the community were supposed to volunteer their time working the gardens to cultivate the crops? Well, some started skipping out on their responsibilities, & the Pilgrims almost starved to death.

Then, they decided to give each family their own plat of area, within the fertile community garden, to grow their own food, & voila! Everyone prospered, & began trading the crops they grew.

I say lease the homeless people government land ($1/acre/yr) away from population centers to make their own way. Provide irrigation, seeds, & basic tools to grow food, & purify the water for drinking. Give them a tent, enough provisions to last until their crops could feed them, & guns/ammo to hunt for meat. If they succeeded, they'd be given the option to return to society, if they failed and tried to sneak back into society, they've be imprisoned for life, & work as prison laborers to offset the costs of their confinement. If they failed & faced starvation, they'd have to offer their labor to others who were succeeding on their leased lands.

Before you criticize my idea, offer your own. Or, explain why we should allow the homeless to destroy our society. The idea of America being a free society doesn't mean freeloaders must be permitted to exist amongst us. If you want to personally sponsor one of them, I'd be for that alternative.

[WilliamInMiami]

Originally Posted by beach43ofus

I've often thought that people who do not want to engage in society, & contribute, should not be allowed to benefit from it, & live amongst us.

Remember the Pilgrims who tried to grow food in community gardens, and members of the community were supposed to volunteer their time working the gardens to cultivate the crops? Well, some started skipping out on their responsibilities, & the Pilgrims almost starved to death.

Then, they decided to give each family their own plat of area, within the fertile community garden, to grow their own food, & voila! Everyone prospered, & began trading the crops they grew.

I say lease the homeless people government land ($1/acre/yr) away from population centers to make their own way. Provide irrigation, seeds, & basic tools to grow food, & purify the water for drinking. Give them a tent, enough provisions to last until their crops could feed them, & guns/ammo to hunt for meat. If they succeeded, they'd be given the option to return to society, if they failed and tried to sneak back into society, they've be imprisoned for life, & work as prison laborers to offset the costs of their confinement. If they failed & faced starvation, they'd have to offer their labor to others who were succeeding on their leased lands.

Before you criticize my idea, offer your own. Or, explain why we should allow the homeless to destroy our society. The idea of America being a free society doesn't mean freeloaders must be permitted to exist amongst us. If you want to personally sponsor one of them, I'd be for that alternative.

That might have been a good idea 100 years ago. The reality is crackheads don't want to work.

[wizrap]

Does anyone know what percentage of the homeless are veterans? Reason I ask is that there are so many benefits and programs available to them. I know there’s probably a percentage that falsely claim to be veterans but it seems like you hear of so many homeless vets.

If we targeted that group in some way, would that make a difference? Target certain demographics one by one?

[Corrie22]

the 2 problems I see with Virginia Key.....it's too far removed....their target doesn't have cars to get to interviews or jobs

they said it voluntary...and no drugs....so many of these people are in the shape they are in because of drugs

[roadtrip75]

It's a difficult question to which I don't know the answer, but absolutely no way should they be allowed the hang around Lummus Park/Ocean Drive.

[WilliamInMiami]

Originally Posted by roadtrip75

It's a difficult question to which I don't know the answer, but absolutely no way should they be allowed the hang around Lummus Park/Ocean Drive.

The beach is popular because the homeless with outgoing personalities frequently find tourists to party with (share food, alcohol and drugs). Others go to 12th street beach at night where gay men offer male addicts money for oral sex. Plus easy access to free drinking water and showers.