[danielj72]

Originally Posted by scolls

GM and the state of Michigan have given plenty to the country. The industrial revolution that made the US an economic power started in Detroit. GM gave back to this country during WWII, they've employed hundreds of thousands of people, and have paid billions in taxes, far exceeding what they received in support or what any single American who whines about "their tax dollars" I can't believe some little douchebag who probably pays a meager pittance in taxes, if any at all, feels he's entitled to steal water. Go suck on a cactus.

Cant believe im saying this, well said scolls.

[darstar]

Desert is desert...let it be as it was...before all the people from Michigan,Il. Canada , and all the other cold places...decided to move there. Its unnatural.

[danielj72]

The enviroment of the southwest can never support the population they are dealing with now. People moved there from all over expecting great weather and the good life. They put in lawns, watered them, washed thier cars and never took notice to the hard fact that they lived in a desert. As the cities grew, they diverted all the water they could from the Colorada river, and now that river runs dry before it reaches the gulf of California in Baja Mexico. They essentially stole that water from Mexico. Now we keep hearing all the talk of stealing Michigan water, just so they can continue to live the good life. Well we say no. The only choice for them will be to pony up the large amount of cash required to build desalination plants on the Pacific coast. If they want to live there, then theyll have to pay for thier own water. Arizona, California, New Mexico, Nevada all have been living by draining the Colorado, and draining the limited ground water supply available. Their water demand is now reaching the level that they need to find another source. Well dont look to great lakes water, it is not for sale.

[Driller1]

DEMINT: White House land grab - Washington Times

This land wasn't for sale.

[darstar]

Originally Posted by Driller1

DEMINT: White House land grab - Washington Times

This land wasn't for sale.

Can you believe anything Jim DeMint says ?....did deeper for the truth.

Our Monument lands have proven a great preserver of History. many of them are in places ,cities , urban districts where the masses can learn about our history. We do need to educate our young people every chance , as history has been so neglected.

Pres. Carter came to the ad of Alaska by involving the monument act. Yes , the gun craze's fought him at every turn. Seward, AK. even had a proclamation against the act......Today , they quietly rescinded that proclamation...as the Monument Act for the Ice Fields and bays brought tourist...and Seward has been thankful for the industry. Funny how people come around...eventually.

[1coolcustomer]

Originally Posted by scolls

GM and the state of Michigan have given plenty to the country. The industrial revolution that made the US an economic power started in Detroit. GM gave back to this country during WWII, they've employed hundreds of thousands of people, and have paid billions in taxes, far exceeding what they received in support or what any single American who whines about "their tax dollars" I can't believe some little douchebag who probably pays a meager pittance in taxes, if any at all, feels he's entitled to steal water. Go suck on a cactus.

Oh isn't that cute , look at the tough guy talk. You can try and impress your lame MI cohorts with the schoolyard babble but I know better, I used to live in MI......a bunch of whimps.

GM didn't supply WWII supplies for free,they were paid for it so that point is moot. Fact is if no bailout it would have crippled MI even moreso than any other state.

BTW I live FL and much to the chagrin of the doomsday water hoarders you can no longer include the South as one of the parched areas, it's been raining like hell down here. The lake behind my house that I could walk 100 yards out into on dry lakebed 2 years ago.........it's over my head right at the dock now.

[JGatti]

Originally Posted by rlt

Anybody hear about the "Water Battle" about to happen???

It's going around that soon (I don't know how soon though), that all out West (Arizona, Nevada, Utah, etc), are going to start wanting the Great Lakes Water pumped out there.

I don't know about you, but I don't want our water ruined by this, do you?? It'll ruin our fishing, recreation, etc.

Any opinions, thoughts, any information you wanna' add?

Anything at all?

Thanks!

I searched all around the internet and found nothing related to this subject. Can anyone provide I link that supports these claims? The only articles I found related to Arizona and water were 3 years old.
I think there are other resources a bit closer than the great lakes for them to get water like....... THE OCEAN. There is more than one process to remove the salt and make ocean water drinkable. Besides I've read stories that claim they are not even close to having a water problem and other stories that say they MAY have one in the future.

[darstar]

Originally Posted by 1coolcustomer

Oh isn't that cute , look at the tough guy talk. You can try and impress your lame MI cohorts with the schoolyard babble but I know better, I used to live in MI......a bunch of whimps.

GM didn't supply WWII supplies for free,they were paid for it so that point is moot. Fact is if no bailout it would have crippled MI even moreso than any other state.

BTW I live FL and much to the chagrin of the doomsday water hoarders you can no longer include the South as one of the parched areas, it's been raining like hell down here. The lake behind my house that I could walk 100 yards out into on dry lakebed 2 years ago.........it's over my head right at the dock now.

And how are those huge Pythons working out for ya. ?

[MICoastieMom]

Originally Posted by 1coolcustomer

Oh isn't that cute , look at the tough guy talk. You can try and impress your lame MI cohorts with the schoolyard babble but I know better, I used to live in MI......a bunch of whimps.

GM didn't supply WWII supplies for free,they were paid for it so that point is moot. Fact is if no bailout it would have crippled MI even moreso than any other state.

BTW I live FL and much to the chagrin of the doomsday water hoarders you can no longer include the South as one of the parched areas, it's been raining like hell down here. The lake behind my house that I could walk 100 yards out into on dry lakebed 2 years ago.........it's over my head right at the dock now.

You missed the point, my friend. That GM and Ford got paid is immaterial. That Ford and GM had the ability to quickly re-tool and produce the goods needed by the military is exactly the reason they, and the midwest, were approached by the government. Not the Southwest, heck, not even the mob was interested in Vegas then.

BTW, I used to live in Florida and part of the reason we left was because the houses around us were falling into sinkholes caused by prolonged drought. BTW, I also used to live in the Southwest, and it is absolutely ludicrious to think you can support the vegetation there without irrigation as is naturally supported here.

As for being wimps........ we are still here, you're the one who left.

[michmoldman]

Originally Posted by 1coolcustomer

The State of Michigan already owes the rest of the nation water. They should have directly tied all the bailout money of GM and Chrysler to your water. The highest unemployment in the nation, handouts out the ying yang in the form of UIA benefits, bailout, etc. and for what the feds pay for all that it would be cheaper to buy water from China.

And you all are wrong that you'll just be giving it away........more like it will be taken from you whether you like it or not. It's not just your water,it's the USA remember or are you all just good Americans when it's time for the bailout trough to be filled?

Sorry to burst your little bubble, but it would be a much bigger battle then you can imagine. Its not only Michigan that would be impacted, its every state and country (Canada) impacted by the Great Lakes watershed....its not just our water. Like I said, Canada, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania and New York. The Niagara river along with Niagara Falls would be affected, along with the St. Lawrence River, and every city and town along these rivers would be affected. I dont think anyone of these places is just gonna let the water be taken. Actually it would be an impossible fight to win. It would be much easier to get water from the ocean. Go play in someone elses forums.