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Dont tell me I need to explain to you how these are all regions of WV and WVU is ranked #1 in WV?
We have in many respects world class health care here in Morgantown, with highest rankings in 12 of the 16 specialties ranked. We have an excellent system. But, nobody is going to confuse us with Johns Hopkins, which I'm sure has all 16 of them ranked. And, as much as it pains me to say it, same goes for the University of Pittsburgh health system. Pitt stinks at a lot of things, but in healthcare they are first rate. There is one good thing about that situation though. For those other 4 specialties, it's a relatively short hike to Pittsburgh, and we can be at Johns Hopkins almost as quickly as we can Charleston. Folks in Martinsburg can be there in an hour.
TBailey, I appreciate your link, but it did not populate with any data. It asked that I enter a location or dr name. What should I do to get the link to pull up the criteria you wanted to show us?
I'm not surprised you don't know your regions of WV. Because over the course of the past two yours you have showed me that you really don't know much of anything. The metro valley is a region of WV along with the Mountain and Lakes Region. This is the site that CT used to say WVUH was ranked as the top regional hospital. No kidding its the top hospital in a few county radius!! LOL
There are also regions of the US, and WVUH nor CAMC make any of the US regional lists because there is not a large enough city to qualify. I am surprised I am still having to repeat this. You really should just go to bed and think of something else to torment people about tomorrow.
We are not at the same level as Johns Hopkins or Pitt, where every specialty is top ranked. Though not at that level, it is also likely the Cincy has higher rankings (all 16) as well as Columbus.
I understand perfectly, I work at a hospital. US News specializes in making lists. Health Grades Specializes in ranking quality of care in hospitals. US News uses volume and reputation among providers to rank hospitals. Health Grades looks at procedural outcomes such as infection and mortality. You tell me which factors indicate quality of care.
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In 12 specialties, a hospital must be in the top 25 percent of all hospitals that qualified for possible national ranking, and thus received a U.S. News Score, by meeting various standards that included specialty-specific minimums for patient volume. In Cancer, for example, 901 hospitals in the original 4,793-hospital universe qualified to receive a U.S. News Score this year, and only 25 percent of those were ranked or recognized as high-performing in Cancer.
In the other four specialties—Ophthalmology, Psychiatry, Rehabilitation, and Rheumatology—the rankings are based solely on hospitals' reputations with surveyed medical specialists; hospitals are recognized as high-performing if they received nominations from at least 3 percent of the responding specialists. (Hospitals nominated by 5 percent or more of specialists are nationally ranked.)
Silk, here's another link you and other people looking for quality healthcare might like. It's from Health Grades which ranks hospitals not just by specialities provided, but by outcomes of those specialities. Notice which hospitals rank high and which rank lower. Again, the list is ranked by the number of awards for quality in outcomes.
Hospital ratings reports for specific procedures and diagnoses are compiled primarily from Medicare claim data, and include all hospitals that are Medicare participants. Some critics insist that medical records should be used instead of claim records which do not include factors that affect patient outcomes. Ratings are updated yearly, but data is two years old before Medicare releases it. Therefore, the 2011 ratings are derived using data from 2007 to 2009.[1][10][11]
Healthgrades develops objective ratings based on data and information obtained from several sources, mostly available to the public. The data is analyzed using a proprietary methodology that identifies the recipients of the various awards and the "1-3-5 Star" designation.[12] Specifically, most ratings are determined from multivariate logistic regressions of medical outcomes at a given healthcare provider and 1-, 3- and 5-star awards are given to providers whose negative outcomes are worse than expected, near predicted levels, and better than expected, respectively.[13] The ratings have been criticized for oversights in the methodology that may actually penalize some institutions with ideal medical outcomes.[13] Because Healthgrades' algorithms are proprietary, outside experts have "expressed concern about the reliability and validity of such 'black box' rating scales."[14]
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Medical experts have questioned the reliability of the 1-, 3- and 5-star ratings given to healthcare providers, criticizing the lack of transparency and perceived oversights in Healthgrades' methodology.[13][14]
A 2004 report in the Rocky Mountain News concluded that Healthgrades had inaccurate physician disciplinary records (while competitor ChoicePoint had much greater accuracy).[16] The report also detailed the complaints of former Healthgrades employees and physicians that pursued legal actions after inaccurate reports.[16]
A 2002 study published in JAMA reported that Healthgrades ratings for mortality associated with acute myocardial infarction identified "groups of hospitals differing in the aggregate in quality of care and outcomes" but heterogeneity within the ratings for individual hospitals could not reliably discriminate between individual hospitals in quality of care or mortality.[17] To illustrate: for any pair of hospitals rated to two different rating groups (1-, 3- or 5-star) by Healthgrades, the researchers determined that standardized mortality rates were "comparable or even better in the lower-rated hospital in more than 90% of the comparisons".[17]
A 2011 study published in Archives of Surgery evaluated Healthgrades and US News & World Report ratings in oncologic surgeries, comparing top-rated hospitals in the two reports to all other U.S. hospitals.[18] The authors determined that both ratings systems had substantive flaws in the evaluation of mortality following pancreatectomy, esophagectomy or colectomy; only the top rated hospitals for colectomy in the US News & World Report ratings had a statistically significant lower mortality than national averages—mortality rates at Healthgrades' best hospitals were not not significantly lower for any of the three procedures.[18]
A similar study, published in Journal of the American College of Surgeons in 2010, compared mortality in US News and World Report and HealthGgrades lists of "Best Hospitals" for abdominal aortic aneurysm repair, coronary artery bypass, aortic valve repair and mitral valve repair.[19] Risk-adjusted mortality was found to be statistically significantly lower in the Healthgrades' "Best Hospitals" for coronary artery bypass and aortic valve repair.[19]
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Healthgrades has been criticized for its use of "automatic renewal" subscription charges to customers that purchase reports.[20] ConsumerAffairs.com lists multiple complaints from healthcare providers alleging inaccurate information and from consumers alleging credit card charges for unwanted subscription services.[21]
The company discontinued all consumer based credit card product offerings during 2011.[citation needed]
Any health practitioners doubt the credibility and usefulness of online anonymous MD rating sites as there is little or no accountabilty on the part of the individual doing the rating. Many physcians feel that it is usually a disgruntled patient that is the most critical and vocal and therefore ratings may be skewered to the negative. Additionally, what keeps the drug seeking patient, who is turned down from obtaining unnecessary narcotics from seeking retributrion against the well meaning doctor?[citation needed]
As of June 4, 2013, Healthgrades still lists among its physicians Oleg A. Davie, the infamously well-known Brooklyn cosmetic surgeon arraigned with manslaughter charges for the death of Isel Pineda due to a recklessly performed liposuction in 2012.[22] Despite that and the fact that Davie's license was suspended [23] Healthgrades grades him with an excellent 5.5 out of 6 stars.[24]
Chris, do you have any better sources?
*EDIT* BTW, when I ask for proof of Huntington being depressed this is the kind of proof I am asking for, just letting people know what real proof is going forward. Notice I was able to provide this within minutes and didnt need to resort to post after post of
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and saying it wasnt true without providing any evidence.
TBailey, I appreciate your link, but it did not populate with any data. It asked that I enter a location or dr name. What should I do to get the link to pull up the criteria you wanted to show us?
Thanks
That's weird, it generates a list for WV when I click the link.
If it doesn't work, click the hospital tab and put West Virginia in as the location.
TBailey, I appreciate your link, but it did not populate with any data. It asked that I enter a location or dr name. What should I do to get the link to pull up the criteria you wanted to show us?
Thanks
I think Bailey has posted before about Cabell Huntington's orthopaedic unit being nationally ranked. I have no idea why they didn't make the US News cut, but I have always heard good things about that specialty there. I think they also have an outstanding Neuro Physical Therapy program operated by a first rate physical therapist trained at WVU.
Here's another company that ranks hospitals based on quality outcomes, CareChex. Again, note hospital order for quality of care. If it doesn't work, input WV as the state and overall quality in the clinical category box.
I'm not surprised you don't know your regions of WV. Because over the course of the past two yours you have showed me that you really don't know much of anything. The metro valley is a region of WV along with the Mountain and Lakes Region. This is the site that CT used to say WVUH was ranked as the top regional hospital. No kidding its the top hospital in a few county radius!! LOL
There are also regions of the US, and WVUH nor CAMC make any of the US regional lists because there is not a large enough city to qualify. I am surprised I am still having to repeat this. You really should just go to bed and think of something else to torment people about tomorrow.
CT is saying WVUH is the top ranked hospital in West Virginia, the only ranked hospital in its region, those are facts. There are hospitals in the large cities that have more specialties ranked. That's a fact too. In our little state though, we get to bark loudest. LOL Maybe that's why CAMC and several other hospitals in the state have a permanent WVUH presence in them?
I think Bailey has posted before about Cabell Huntington's orthopaedic unit being nationally ranked. I have no idea why they didn't make the US News cut, but I have always heard good things about that specialty there. I think they also have an outstanding Neuro Physical Therapy program operated by a first rate physical therapist trained at WVU.
Ok, i was able to get the link to work this time. I wish I had know C-HH was nationally ranked in Ortho, I have been using Scott Orthopaedic at St Mary's. but I can't complain. Dr Brown has been great!
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