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Old 11-20-2022, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Harrison Ford is a giant douche. An old crotchety douche that hates his fans and is only looking for $$$ and to stay relevant.
He killed off Han Solo in those worthless idiotic Star Wars messes. Now he wants to kill off Indiana Jones. What a douche.
There was a lookalike actor who could reprise the Indiana Jones character and have the adventures set again in the 1930s. He played a younger Ford character in a flashback in that movie about a woman that never ages. So just let Ford grovel at the feet of Hollywood souless producers and make an ass out of himself. Thats how he'll be remembered.
What an over-reaction.
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Old 11-21-2022, 06:40 PM
 
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And the problem is that any film of the same genre is immediately called (at least by some) a rip off of Indiana Jones.
Spielberg has suggested that Indy will keep on going after Ford’s departure.

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Harrison Ford is a giant douche. An old crotchety douche that hates his fans and is only looking for $$$ and to stay relevant.
He killed off Han Solo in those worthless idiotic Star Wars messes. Now he wants to kill off Indiana Jones. What a douche.
There was a lookalike actor who could reprise the Indiana Jones character and have the adventures set again in the 1930s. He played a younger Ford character in a flashback in that movie about a woman that never ages. So just let Ford grovel at the feet of Hollywood souless producers and make an ass out of himself. Thats how he'll be remembered.
Ford wanted Han Solo to be killed off in Return of the Jedi, but Lucas was against the idea.
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Old 11-22-2022, 05:42 AM
 
Location: Maine
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Spielberg has suggested that Indy will keep on going after Ford’s departure.
Who knows with Hollywood these days? But that would be a spectacularly bad idea.

I would love to see a talented filmmaker come along and do a character inspired by Indiana Jones and the serials that inspired him. We don't have to keep copycatting endlessly. Try something new.
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Old 11-22-2022, 07:22 AM
 
Location: U.S.A.
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Why anyone has any interest at all in The Adventures of 80-Year-Old Indiana Jones is beyond me.
How bout Indiana Jones versus a giant snake, that could be his final boss. He faces his ultimate fear, we could work it in around climate change, and our villain be: King of the Lizard Peoples. Crystal skulls turned out to be fake news, so why not lol


Let's go full retard and slay that dragon, Short Round!


Indiana Jones' TV Series Should Make Short Round Indy's Successor
https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/new...or/ar-AA140TTl
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Old 11-22-2022, 10:15 AM
 
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Ford wanted Han Solo to be killed off in Return of the Jedi, but Lucas was against the idea.
Ford was also the last legacy actor to agree to appear in the sequel trilogy.

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But that would be a spectacularly bad idea.
Hollywood's specialty.
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Old 11-27-2022, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Type 0.73 Kardashev
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I just want to be enertained. Entertain me and I could care less regarding specifics. I won't want to be lectured. I don't want politics or political correctness. I don't want mindless CGI with no plot. Just entertain me and I don't care if the protagonist is an 80 year old man or a puppy.

Make if fun or funny or suspenseful, and don't cheat me or insult my intelligence, and don't interject real life crap like politics.

I am an escapist. I just want to go into my own little word for a couple of hours.
Well, if you're going to drag this subject off-topic in order to rant about political correctness, let's talk about Raiders of the Lost Ark.

Who were the bad guys? Nazis. That's political correctness, you know. It is quintessentially political as well. Though I didn't bother to waste my time with it, I understand that the bad guys in Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull were communists. Yep, that's political correctness as well. It's political, it's woke (to the evils of communism) and it's virtue signaling (ie, that liberal democracy is better than communism). The only reason that half the population doesn't get bent out of shape over anti-Nazi and anti-communism messages are because most of us agree with them.

Wait, I can hear you thinking, Unsettomati didn't like Raiders of the Lost Ark? Sure, I loved it. I had no problem that the producers used a politically correct villain, thereby virtue-signaling their wokeness to Western values. But then, I don't subscribe to the flimsy pretense that such things (political correctness, wokeness, virtue signaling, and other related things that trigger the usual suspects) are anything but ordinary behavior that have always permeated societies of all sorts for good reasons. I don't contort myself to no end trying to pretend that political correctness (et al) magically ceases to be political correctness when I happen to agree with the underlying message. I understand that neither myself nor those who posture as being anti-political correctness really object on principle to such. We simple disagree with certain messages but not others. I'm able to differentiate between the two (it's really not that hard).

Lincoln
Juno
Schindler's List
Dances With Wolves
Red Dawn
The Deer Hunter
Dirty Harry
Easy Rider
To Kill a Mockingbird
12 Angry Men
Rio Bravo
High Noon

Every one of these films, like so many other classics (and otherwise), has a very strong message. An agenda. Political correctness. They all virtue signal. They're all woke to various elements of social justice. Lincoln? Woke to the evils of slavery. The Deer Hunter? Woke to the abuse that was the Vietnam War upon those who served in it, and their enduring detriment. 12 Angry Men? It's woke to the very basic elements of social justice itself. And so on.

Fun fact:
John Wayne hated the message of High Noon so much (he called it, and I quote, "the most un-American thing I've ever seen in my whole life") that he made Ria Bravo in response; the latter, of course, was specifically imbued with Wayne's own preferred political message. Later in his life, Wayne would hate Clint Eastwood's westerns so much (because Eastwood's protagonists were morally ambiguous - Wayne believed it necessary that protagonists be white hats, so as to impart a moral lesson to audiences) that he refused to work with Eastwood on proposed joint projects. I mention these facts because those who decry 'politics' in movies generally don't have any issue with the politics that Wayne weaves through his films, which again illustrates that they don't really have a problem with politics per se, but just with politics that don't jibe with their own.

It's way past time for people who dislike certain messages to stop insisting that they're principally opposed to all content with an agenda when they're obviously not.
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Old 11-28-2022, 06:21 AM
 
Location: Maine
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The movies have always been political. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to watch more movies.

'Tis the season. Go watch IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE and tell me it isn't preaching a message.

That said, today's Hollywood just isn't very good at it. The masters of cinema could be political and downright subversive all the while telling a great, convincing story, mostly because they understood the value of subtext. (Go watch SPARTACUS or even a frickin' PLANET OF THE APES movie.) Today's writers don't seem to know the meaning of subtext. Everything is on the surface and is about a micron deep.

Movies of the past showed a great story and made you think --- and very often they could even change your mind. Today's movies do not want you to think. They just want you to get in line. There is a big difference.
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Old 11-28-2022, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Western North Carolina
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That movie was so bad, that even four wine coolers in, I still couldn't like it. Haven't watched it since.

And Disney is doing this one? The company that ruined Star Wars? Gee, what could possibly have gone wrong...
What you don't see is that these movies,and their heroic characters, once iconic and treasured parts of our shared American culture, are being debased, and degraded - purposefully.

yes, purposefully.
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Old 12-02-2022, 06:47 AM
 
Location: Maine
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Well, it looks like it might be fun, despite some really hackneyed dialogue.

But THE DIAL OF DESTINY? Really??? That's what they came up with. It sounds like Indie is on a quest for the world's greatest bath soap.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfVYgWYaHmE
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Old 12-02-2022, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Well, it looks like it might be fun, despite some really hackneyed dialogue.

But THE DIAL OF DESTINY? Really??? That's what they came up with. It sounds like Indie is on a quest for the world's greatest bath soap.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfVYgWYaHmE
Of course trailers aren't always indicitive of the actual film, but I liked it.
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