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Old 06-03-2008, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Historic Downtown Jersey City
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Buffalo's crime index is 725.7....versus JC's 509.8.

Tahiti...the former mayor?
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:20 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Buffalo's crime index is 725.7....versus JC's 509.8.

Tahiti...the former mayor?
yes, the former incarcerated mayor, LOL
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:23 AM
 
Location: North Jersey
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yes, the former incarcerated mayor, LOL

Tahiti!! That had to be a hoot for sure
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Jersey City
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Greensboro, NC
Population: 236,000
City-data crime index (2006): 569.9
Greensboro is huge like Va Beach, but it is right next to Winston-Harlem.

Buffalo, NY
Population: 276,000
City-data crime index (2006): 725.7

Toledo, OH
Population: 298,000
City-data crime index (2006): 729.2

Birmingham, AL
Population: 229,000
City-data crime index (2006): 892.6

and for fun, my beloved hometown...
Norfolk, VA
Population: 229,000
City-data crime index (2006): 482.9

Lincoln, NE
Population 241,000
City-data crime index (2006): 374.5

Madison, WI
Population: 223,000
City-data crime index (2006): 292.8


Jersey City ain't the safest nor the most dangerous city its size in the U.S. Yes, I said "ain't." So what?
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Old 06-03-2008, 12:27 PM
 
Location: North Bergen,NJ
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Ranking of Most, Least Dangerous Cities

Jersey City Ranked 312th on Most Dangerous Cities List - Associated Content

Tommyc, here are your facts since nobodys allowed to make an argument with you unless we have links. Id like to find the other ones right now for you but unfortunatly im at work so its tough to take time out to do so. And did you seriously compair St Louis to JC? St Louis was ranked number one a few year ago as the worst city in America, not to mention Chicago and Atlanta too.
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Old 06-03-2008, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Historic Downtown Jersey City
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lammius, thanks for that. JC's crime index is 509, for comparison.

This proves my point exactly.

Here's my informal conclusion:
Jersey City has a much LOWER crime rate than most large cities (500,000+)

Jersey City is about AVERAGE in crime (maybe slightly below average) for mid-sized cities (200,000 - 500,000 population)

cf77, fischfan...any further challenges?
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Old 06-03-2008, 12:46 PM
 
Location: North Jersey
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lammius, thanks for that. JC's crime index is 509, for comparison.

This proves my point exactly.

Here's my informal conclusion:
Jersey City has a much LOWER crime rate than most large cities (500,000+)

Jersey City is about AVERAGE in crime (maybe slightly below average) for mid-sized cities (200,000 - 500,000 population)

cf77, fischfan...any further challenges?
So where does New Orleans fit in...that's about their post Katrina population and the crime there isn't going down..JC crime much lower then NOLA especially the murders
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Old 06-03-2008, 12:47 PM
 
Location: North Bergen,NJ
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Yea my further challenge was just posted.
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Old 06-03-2008, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Historic Downtown Jersey City
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OK cf77....are you ready?

That list includes suburbs...look at number 1: Brick, NJ. Of course JC is going to rank lower than Brick, NJ. Laughing-out-Loud...is what I'm doing right now. (I had to spell it out for ya, because things seem to take 2 or 3 times to get through to ya!)

Did you ever take any type of research analysis course in school? It was a mandatory requirement when I was in college.

In case you never took a course like that...I'll remind you of the point I made countless times...we must compare APPLES to APPLES...or....CITIES to CITIES.

Look at the 3 cities that surround Jersey City on that list you provided. Tampa (great vacation destination), Milwaukee (real neat town from what I hear), and Miami (another great vacation destination, I can share some old stories if you'd like). Not bad company for JC to be flanked by. NONE of these cities have a bad reputation for crime. Why? Because they are CITIES. When you compare JC's crime rate to other CITIES (like me and lammius have done), as a rational human being with the ability to reason (hopefully, but I'm not holding my breath) you'll see that JC is in no way shape or form above average in crime. It is average or slightly below average.

Now since everybody else reading this thread is thinking "Sheesh cf77, just see the facts and agree with this Tommy character"...will ya do that please?

Or do I need to create a PowerPoint presentation?

I think I missed my calling as a lawyer

Anyway, read through my posts, my research, stats, and lammius' posts. Read'em twice, maybe thrice. You can learn something, kid.
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:13 PM
 
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Wow, I'm just entertained with all this back and forth going on. I'm still doing research on NJ neighborhoods, but narrowing down to Bayonne, JC and New Brunswick. I do like how Tommyc presents his 'arguments' though...yes you should have been an attorney! Jersey City seem to be like any big city, aka Brooklyn (where I live). There are good parts and bad parts to every 'larger' city. Obviously the bad parts/news get more attention than good parts/news.
At least now I know who (TOMMYC and JERSEYMAN) to go to for input on JC areas when I go house hunting!
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