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Tommyc, here are your facts since nobodys allowed to make an argument with you unless we have links. Id like to find the other ones right now for you but unfortunatly im at work so its tough to take time out to do so. And did you seriously compair St Louis to JC? St Louis was ranked number one a few year ago as the worst city in America, not to mention Chicago and Atlanta too.
lammius, thanks for that. JC's crime index is 509, for comparison.
This proves my point exactly.
Here's my informal conclusion:
Jersey City has a much LOWER crime rate than most large cities (500,000+)
Jersey City is about AVERAGE in crime (maybe slightly below average) for mid-sized cities (200,000 - 500,000 population)
cf77, fischfan...any further challenges?
So where does New Orleans fit in...that's about their post Katrina population and the crime there isn't going down..JC crime much lower then NOLA especially the murders
That list includes suburbs...look at number 1: Brick, NJ. Of course JC is going to rank lower than Brick, NJ. Laughing-out-Loud...is what I'm doing right now. (I had to spell it out for ya, because things seem to take 2 or 3 times to get through to ya!)
Did you ever take any type of research analysis course in school? It was a mandatory requirement when I was in college.
In case you never took a course like that...I'll remind you of the point I made countless times...we must compare APPLES to APPLES...or....CITIES to CITIES.
Look at the 3 cities that surround Jersey City on that list you provided. Tampa (great vacation destination), Milwaukee (real neat town from what I hear), and Miami (another great vacation destination, I can share some old stories if you'd like). Not bad company for JC to be flanked by. NONE of these cities have a bad reputation for crime. Why? Because they are CITIES. When you compare JC's crime rate to other CITIES (like me and lammius have done), as a rational human being with the ability to reason (hopefully, but I'm not holding my breath) you'll see that JC is in no way shape or form above average in crime. It is average or slightly below average.
Now since everybody else reading this thread is thinking "Sheesh cf77, just see the facts and agree with this Tommy character"...will ya do that please?
Or do I need to create a PowerPoint presentation?
I think I missed my calling as a lawyer
Anyway, read through my posts, my research, stats, and lammius' posts. Read'em twice, maybe thrice. You can learn something, kid.
Wow, I'm just entertained with all this back and forth going on. I'm still doing research on NJ neighborhoods, but narrowing down to Bayonne, JC and New Brunswick. I do like how Tommyc presents his 'arguments' though...yes you should have been an attorney! Jersey City seem to be like any big city, aka Brooklyn (where I live). There are good parts and bad parts to every 'larger' city. Obviously the bad parts/news get more attention than good parts/news.
At least now I know who (TOMMYC and JERSEYMAN) to go to for input on JC areas when I go house hunting!
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