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Old 01-15-2017, 03:24 PM
 
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This is typical coastal liberal bubble viewpoint. Simply NOT true. The Northern Dallas suburbs and Austin have some of the best schools in the nation. But go on, stay narrow minded. Those backward hicks in Texas! Mhhmm..
Haha. Austin is a liberal hotbed - that's why their schools are good. And places like Park Cities, Preston Hollow and Lakewood have some of the highest property taxes in the nation. Only Wisconsin, New Hampshire, Illinois, and New Jersey residents pay more according to this article:

Homeowners Fight Inflated Property Taxes | Preston Hollow People

Like I said, you get what you pay for.
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Old 01-15-2017, 03:28 PM
 
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Austin is a liberal hotbed - that's why their schools are good.

The fact that he is unaware of the political and social realities of Austin is...very telling.
Yes, Austin is somewhat of an anomaly in the state of Texas, but one would think that Austin's well known reputation for being unlike most of the state of Texas would have trickled-down, even into right-wing brains.
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Old 01-15-2017, 04:06 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Haha. Austin is a liberal hotbed
what makes it a liberal hotbed?
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Old 01-15-2017, 05:18 PM
 
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The fact that he is unaware of the political and social realities of Austin is...very telling.
Yes, Austin is somewhat of an anomaly in the state of Texas, but one would think that Austin's well known reputation for being unlike most of the state of Texas would have trickled-down, even into right-wing brains.
most major cities in Texas lean blue in major elections except Ft. Worth.

the fact that the amount of $$$ going into the schools DETERMINES the ratings doesn't ever trickle into leftoid brains is sad.
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Old 01-15-2017, 05:20 PM
 
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most major cities in Texas lean blue in major elections except Ft. Worth.

the fact that the amount of $$$ going into the schools DETERMINES the ratings doesn't ever trickle into leftoid brains is sad.
Pretty sure that is a incorrect statment.
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Old 01-15-2017, 11:10 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Pretty sure that is a incorrect statment.
G1 is correct. If I remember correctly, the best school districts in Texas, regardless of whether you believe they are good or bad on a national scale, don't spend more per pupil than other school districts in the state, and less than many rural districts where things like abstinence is more common. Or so I believe, for that last part. My public school in Texas didn't teach creationism or abstinence only (though it talked about abstinence we also spent equal time on safety), and I don't know anyone who went to a school that did, except for anonymous people on the internet, with most people I know having attended schools in a suburban or urban setting.
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Old 01-16-2017, 08:09 AM
 
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Haha. Austin is a liberal hotbed - that's why their schools are good. And places like Park Cities, Preston Hollow and Lakewood have some of the highest property taxes in the nation. Only Wisconsin, New Hampshire, Illinois, and New Jersey residents pay more according to this article:

Homeowners Fight Inflated Property Taxes | Preston Hollow People

Like I said, you get what you pay for.
You conveniently left out North Dallas suburbs. Doesn't fit your narrative?
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Old 01-16-2017, 08:12 AM
 
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The fact that he is unaware of the political and social realities of Austin is...very telling.
Yes, Austin is somewhat of an anomaly in the state of Texas, but one would think that Austin's well known reputation for being unlike most of the state of Texas would have trickled-down, even into right-wing brains.
"HE" knows all about Austin. "HE" has coworkers and relatives that LIVE there. "THEE" typically assumes, and makes azz of self.

Try again.
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Old 01-16-2017, 10:15 AM
 
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You conveniently left out North Dallas suburbs. Doesn't fit your narrative?
North Dallas area tax rates:

Highland Village 2.24%
Plano 2.21%
Prosper 2.48%
Allen 2 4%
Frisco 2.2%

My narrative has been fairly consistent. Good schools don't come cheap. As you can see, the tax rates in this area are not low. They are comparable to most NJ towns. The only thing making a property tax bill lower in most of these North Dallas towns is the fact that real estate near Dallas is worth a fraction of what real estate close to NYC costs for reasons hopefully obvious to you.

If these areas had assessments similar to the value of NJ real estate, taxes would be similar. Now the question I have is about your narrative. If North Dallas is in your view such a great place to live with supposedly cheap housing, low taxes, and nationally top ranked schools, why is it far less populous than this area? More importantly, why are you here instead of there?
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Old 01-16-2017, 10:30 AM
 
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North Dallas area tax rates:

Highland Village 2.24%
Plano 2.21%
Prosper 2.48%
Allen 2 4%
Frisco 2.2%

My narrative has been fairly consistent. Good schools don't come cheap. As you can see, the tax rates in this area are not low. They are comparable to most NJ towns. The only thing making a property tax bill lower in most of these North Dallas towns is the fact that real estate near Dallas is worth a fraction of what real estate close to NYC costs for reasons hopefully obvious to you.

If these areas had assessments similar to the value of NJ real estate, taxes would be similar. Now the question I have is about your narrative. If North Dallas is in your view such a great place to live with supposedly cheap housing, low taxes, and nationally top ranked schools, why is it far less populous than this area? More importantly, why are you here instead of there?
Texas has no income tax. The people on these boards are concerned with total tax burden, and yes property tax is a very key part of that.

But, The real way to frame the question is to ask about net migration rates. Go check. NY/NJ/CT all lead in OUT migration. Texas/FL lead in IN-migration. Ask yourself why.

Domestic In-Migration Leaders:

1-Texas (154,467)

2-Florida (138,546)

3-Arizona (41,975)

4-Colorado (40,318)

5-South Carolina (38,614)

6-North Carolina (36,257)

Domestic OUT-Migration Leaders:

1-New York (-153,921)

2-Illinois (-94,956)

3-New Jersey (-55,469)

4-California (-32,090)

5-Pennsylvania (-31,448)

6-Michigan (-28,679)

7-Connecticut (-26,216)

8-Virginia (-20,400)

9-Ohio (-18,243)

10-Massachusetts (-16,354)
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