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If you're lucky you'll be old sometime also, and you'll find sometimes you'll be overwhelmed by the technology. A lot of it is being forced on people, my insurance company has roadside assistance. I called it the other day and didn't talk to one human being until the technician arrived. Go collect social security, done on line. I'm sure most services from the state are the same way. Unfortunately this has also taken away a lot of jobs, and the human element.
you dont need to be able to talk to a person to access those services. you sound like my dad. when he is confronted with a automated phone answering system he proceeds to scream for a human. gets all worked up over it. your lack of desire to comply with advancements in technology isnt something to be proud of. its something to be ashamed of,
That's as dumb as the suggestion that "welfare = socialism = like they do in the socialist utopia of Venezuela" like the hard-right morons espouse.
Don't be a moron.
Yeah, except that there are plenty of successful countries that lean towards democratic socialism. Libertarianism? I don’t know. Help me out. Give me a better example.
[quote=CaptainNJ;54200634]you dont need to be able to talk to a person to access those services. you sound like my dad. when he is confronted with a automated phone answering system he proceeds to scream for a human. gets all worked up over it. your lack of desire to comply with advancements in technology isnt something to be proud of. its something to be ashamed of,[/QUOTE
It's not a "lack of desire to comply with advancments in technology", it's nice to talk to a human sometimes. If there really is an afterlife the person that designed those systems will spend eternity in a box, having to press buttons, to eat, go to the bathroom, etc. Then they're going to get told, "that is an invalid input" and have to start all over again.
I've often spent 4-5 minutes going through prompts, then finally getting to the purpose of the call, then being placed on hold, or told, (again by "machine"), that I will get a call back. Funny, if you're willing to wait, it's 45 minutes, the call back is then an hour later. Then it's still a machine that calls you and asks it you want to continue the call.
By the way, sometimes, screaming, or just repeating the phrase, "I want to speak to a human" actually works.
When I call someplace it's usually for some form of customer service. SOMETHING I'M PAYING FOR!! If I complete the entire transaction, by prompts, etc. where is the service I'm paying for?
you dont need to be able to talk to a person to access those services. you sound like my dad. when he is confronted with a automated phone answering system he proceeds to scream for a human. gets all worked up over it. your lack of desire to comply with advancements in technology isnt something to be proud of. its something to be ashamed of,[/QUOTE
It's not a "lack of desire to comply with advancments in technology", it's nice to talk to a human sometimes. If there really is an afterlife the person that designed those systems will spend eternity in a box, having to press buttons, to eat, go to the bathroom, etc. Then they're going to get told, "that is an invalid input" and have to start all over again.
I've often spent 4-5 minutes going through prompts, then finally getting to the purpose of the call, then being placed on hold, or told, (again by "machine"), that I will get a call back. Funny, if you're willing to wait, it's 45 minutes, the call back is then an hour later. Then it's still a machine that calls you and asks it you want to continue the call.
By the way, sometimes, screaming, or just repeating the phrase, "I want to speak to a human" actually works.
When I call someplace it's usually for some form of customer service. SOMETHING I'M PAYING FOR!! If I complete the entire transaction, by prompts, etc. where is the service I'm paying for?
hahahahaa "SOMETHING IM PAYING FOR!!!" thats hilarious. you pay for customer service? where on the bill for any service you are paying for does it say "Customer Service - $X.XX"? i understand that sometimes those systems are annoying and its best to talk to a person but the way you old people handle it is so ridiculous. you get all bothered by these simple little issues. i find it funny that old people speak negatively about the sensitivity of millennials. its the baby boomers that are so offended by everything and so incapable of handling simple matters. forget about how terrified they are of identity theft, its so funny.
anyway, my dad sometimes refers to himself as "old school" with some of this stuff and tried to make it like its a good thing. i tell him that he isnt "old school" he is just "old." just learn the basics of modern technology, dont be proud of yourself for remaining ignorant.
Yeah, except that there are plenty of successful countries that lean towards democratic socialism. Libertarianism? I don’t know. Help me out. Give me a better example.
There are "successful countries" with a variety of economic strategies.
How is that relevant?
Back to the original point: Who are you, or anyone else to tell two private parties that one can't employ the other freely for any mutually agreed upon wage?
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"corner stone of economics", you're joking?
Well, it's a basic and foundational concept that is literally taught in introductory economics classes. I think it's reasonable to label that a "corner stone" even if you don't understand it.
There are "successful countries" with a variety of economic strategies.
How is that relevant?
Back to the original point: Who are you, or anyone else to tell two private parties that one can't employ the other freely for any mutually agreed upon wage?
Well, it's a basic and foundational concept that is literally taught in introductory economics classes. I think it's reasonable to label that a "corner stone" even if you don't understand it.
hahahahaa "SOMETHING IM PAYING FOR!!!" thats hilarious. you pay for customer service? where on the bill for any service you are paying for does it say "Customer Service - $X.XX"? i understand that sometimes those systems are annoying and its best to talk to a person but the way you old people handle it is so ridiculous. you get all bothered by these simple little issues. i find it funny that old people speak negatively about the sensitivity of millennials. its the baby boomers that are so offended by everything and so incapable of handling simple matters. forget about how terrified they are of identity theft, its so funny.
anyway, my dad sometimes refers to himself as "old school" with some of this stuff and tried to make it like its a good thing. i tell him that he isnt "old school" he is just "old." just learn the basics of modern technology, dont be proud of yourself for remaining ignorant.
In an exchange of money for goods and SERVICES, I guess you are paying for customer service. What if you order something and it's wrong, or isn't delivered at all?
Then you would want customer service, if you got ignored, you wouldn't patronize that business again would you?
You admit that sometimes those systems are annoying and sometimes it's best to speak to a human. "You old people get al bothered by these simple little issues." As I said previously someday you may be old also, and try as you might, there are going to be things you can't do that you used to, at some point you will need glasses, etc. if you're lucky to live so long. I can deal with modern technology to a point, don't accuse people of being ignorant. There's probably some old school technology that you would not understand. I stated earlier about a young person and column shift transmissions.
As far as identity theft, those who've experienced it spend a lot of hours attempting to straighten it out, meanwhile they may be turned down for the mortgage for the house they wanted, etc. All because the computer says you were delinquent on something you never purchased. What really puts the scare into people is the advertising by companies like "Life-lock", credit monitoring, just media reports of Home Depot or someplace getting hacked. Similar to alarm company ads where the woman calls her daughter in from playing outside, and the big goon lurking behind the fence kicks the door in. Then ADT or whoever saves the day. In reality what are the odds "big goon" is lurking around someone's neighborhood, without being noticed by someone; neighbors, patrolling police, etc.? Burglars don't want to encounter people.
Yeah it was taught to me in the 70's and then it was all so taught to me that employers couldn't be trusted to stay honest.
I don't see how honesty is relevant here?
The economics work whether the employers are honest or not.
Their salary offer to a potential employee is just a number...how they came up with that number is irrelevant.
The potential employee can simply decline it if it's not to their liking.
Economics is amazing, isn't it?
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