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Old Yesterday, 07:09 AM
 
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Bet she's collecting a state pension and a federal one now though!
Of course she is!
For those who may have forgotten, she left office in NJ in order to become Dubya's EPA Administrator. In that position, she became infamous in the wake of the 9/11 attack for announcing to first-responders and construction workers that the air in lower Manhattan was safe to breathe.

So, in addition to laying-waste to NJ's fiscal stability, she also endangered the health of thousands of people--many of whom are already dead as a result of her false assurances regarding air quality. That's quite a legacy for both NJ and NY...
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Old Yesterday, 09:06 AM
 
Location: NJ
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This is best illustrated by Mrs. Whitman's decision to withhold billions of dollars that should be going into the public employee pension funds over the next few years, and using the bulk of that money to balance the state budget.
so it looks like it worked out how i said. just spending the money instead of adding it to the pension fund. this is a part of the problem with defined benefit plans and why they shouldnt exist. the assumption is that either it will be made up in the future (someone else's problem) or some form of adjustment in benefits will have to be made in the future.

sure, it could very well be a savings but its not a great way to do it.
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Old Yesterday, 09:32 AM
 
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Bet she's collecting a state pension and a federal one now though!
Of course she is! And of course she has free healthcare for life too. I would love a job where I can collect healthcare for life and a pension after 8 years on the job!
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Old Yesterday, 09:37 AM
 
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Of course she is! And of course she has free healthcare for life too. I would love a job where I can collect healthcare for life and a pension after 8 years on the job!
While voting to take that away from everyone else...
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Old Yesterday, 03:23 PM
 
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Of course she is! And of course she has free healthcare for life too. I would love a job where I can collect healthcare for life and a pension after 8 years on the job!
All you have to do is become a politician. They got themselves cover while everyone else is blaming Republicans or the Democrats
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Old Yesterday, 06:50 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Well the benefit of the US being late to the game for universal healthcare is that we can review all the complaints (if there are any) of all other systems and figure out the best way to circumvent those. We can collect the best ideas from all other developed nations and create the best system possible, by analyzing the strengths and weaknesses of each individual system.
We have a huge obesity problem, it has already put a huge strain in the economy and the health system. You see countries like Japan don't have this problem because they have a healthier population.
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Old Yesterday, 06:55 PM
 
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All you have to do is become a politician. They got themselves cover while everyone else is blaming Republicans or the Democrats
Yes, donít look at us, your problem is that guy next to you whose kid gets free lunch, not us. Look over there!
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Old Today, 09:02 AM
 
Location: NJ
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We have a huge obesity problem, it has already put a huge strain in the economy and the health system. You see countries like Japan don't have this problem because they have a healthier population.
obesity is an individual problem. if i dont have an obesity problem, then i dont have an obesity problem. there is no we. the problem comes when the government pushes someone's expenses on other people. especially when it is something that is a personal choice.
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