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Elementary may be ok if you're at a decent public school, but it quickly goes downhill from there. I just did my student teaching in Manhattan, so I've seen this. BUT, there's hope...If your kid(s) do well on the state tests in elementary, they can apply to good middle schools around the city. So you may end up being at a decent middle school. Of course though, it wouldn't be as good as private school, but still a lot better than your community middle school. Then they do the same for high schools--apply. I would really suggest not having them sent to the MS or HS in your community. The only drawback is that it may be difficult getting to their MS or HS, wherever it would be in the city.
Lower-class people make due on all of the handouts and welfare programs, but they aren't raising any rocket scientists in the PJs, so don't expect much.
I grew up in the PJ's with a fella by the name of Londell McMillan. Brooklyn Tech, Cornell undergrad and NYU Law.....now considered the best entertainment lawyer in the business, with Prince and Stevie Wonder as his clients. In fact, he's the guy who came up with the symbol, to get Purple Man outta his Warner contract! No rocket scientists from the PJ's, eh?
Back on the subject, the schools, unfortunately, are an issue. If you are at a certain address and apartment number, you will be assigned to go to an elementary school, which may not be that good! High schools has a bit more choice, where you do apply, but the good ones are competitive; the specialized HS's have entrence exams (Tech, Stuy and Science). The other issue you have to deal with (all levels) is overcrowding.
I grew up in the PJ's with a fella by the name of Londell McMillan. Brooklyn Tech, Cornell undergrad and NYU Law.....now considered the best entertainment lawyer in the business, with Prince and Stevie Wonder as his clients. In fact, he's the guy who came up with the symbol, to get Purple Man outta his Warner contract! No rocket scientists from the PJ's, eh?
A ghetto miracle is not the standard. Especially these days.
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Is the public school quality issue for high schools only in NY or is it everywhere in the country more or less ?
Most major cities have problematic schools. However NYC's are just that bit extra bad. Could be due to the size of the school system? The high percentage of low income families using the public school system? Funding? Hiring standards? I don't know.
Only 38.9% of NYC 9th graders will graduate in 12th grade. City average. It's worse in low income areas. I do know the problem is beyond high school. It starts early. It also has to do with the families of these children. Both their struggles and attitude towards education.
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If you're not like parents who could care less about your child's education and their life, your child will graduate on time. Just be involved in their education and you'll be fine.
If you're not like parents who could care less about your child's education and their life, your child will graduate on time. Just be involved in their education and you'll be fine.
Problem is these kids drag others down. From physical violence and harassment to "lets cut school"/drink in the back of the classroom/smoke weed in the building across the street. Kids bringing the street bull**** and their personal problems into the classroom. It brings others down. Kids are easily influenced.
Only 38.9% of NYC 9th graders will graduate in 12th grade. City average. It's worse in low income areas. I do know the problem is beyond high school.
This study seems a bit misleading. In Dallas city for example, I know for a fact, that though the Dallas city public schooling is not good, but there are several suburbs which have excellent schools. And thats where most families with kids live.
I would assume even for people working in NY, there would be areas in New Jersey or within an hour's drive which has good public schools.
Yeah thats true, but we're talking about NYC schools, not suburban schools.
You end up paying for those better suburban schools though with ridiculously high property taxes. All this money ends up going to the suburban tenured-teachers who are pulling in 100k a year salaries. So one way or another you're going to end up paying a lot of money if you want your kids to have a good education.
Wow I just looked at that study. Why is NYC doing so bad? The city has a graduation rate of 38.9% while Los Angeles has a rate of 44.2%, Philadelphia has a rate of 55.5%, and Chicago has a graduation rate of 52.2%. Whats up with that?
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Problem is these kids drag others down. From physical violence and harassment to "lets cut school"/drink in the back of the classroom/smoke weed in the building across the street. Kids bringing the street bull**** and their personal problems into the classroom. It brings others down. Kids are easily influenced.
True, but that really happens everywhere. I grew up in what was considered one of the wealthiest areas of Long Island, and that stuff happened in my school (I graduated fairly recently--2002). There are bad kids everywhere, even if they don't come from the projects. It's the parents' job to make sure their kids don't get involved in that stuff, no matter where they live.
True, but that really happens everywhere. I grew up in what was considered one of the wealthiest areas of Long Island, and that stuff happened in my school (I graduated fairly recently--2002). There are bad kids everywhere, even if they don't come from the projects. It's the parents' job to make sure their kids don't get involved in that stuff, no matter where they live.
Yes but the problem comes when some "beef from the block" goes down in the hallway in the form of a stabbing. Inner city schools suffer from major problems with violence. Lots of it.
That incident that made the news in Suffolk is everyday for big schools in NYC. Too common an incident. It would take a homicide inside the school (not outside) to make the paper. Even then it will be forgotton in a week.
You go to suburban schools and it is a different world. So much cleaner, better supplies, better overall atmosphere. In NYC you are greated with metal detectors and you have to swipe your ID card to get into school. Graffiti on the walls, broken sharpeners, books, windows, desk, ect. Gangs beefing, kids fighting over petty ****. Students (and teachers) that don't give a ****. It's a different world.
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