Can we just rebuild the Second and Third Avenue El's?

[rkoco321]

We're past the point of drastically improving public transportation in NYC. We've reach our limits for expansion.

Sure you can make slight improvements. CBTC, bus lanes, better rolling stock, but it costs a ton of money and the benefit is marginal really especially if ridership increases.

You can add more trains and buses, but where are we going to store and maintain them? We can barely maintain what we have now.

50 years ago was the time to do it. They should of expanded the subways into the further outer borough limits and built up the commuter railroad network. Getting in and out of Penn Station is a joke, so is GCT, it's insane we make due with what we got. Still no direct connection with Rockland County to NYC via railroad.

People thought ride share and e hail was going to be a band aid, instead we created more congestion, and the drivers barely make a livable wage.

[NyWriterdude]

Originally Posted by RageX

These are some of the real reasons nothing will ever get built anymore ...ever.

What are you talking about¿ The Airtrain to JFK was built around 2005. 7 train got extended to 34th Street. LIRR is being built to Grand Central. Metro North is being built to Penn Station. Phase one of the Second Avenue Subway was completed in 2017. MTA is gearing up for Phase 2.

Los Angeles and other West Coast cities have done major expansions of their rail networks. Ditto European and Asian cities.

NYC and the Northeast always had the ability to do this. It´s a matter of how you allocate your taxes.

Plus the massive ghetto/welfare complex of NYC drained public resources that could have been used to expand the system.

[NyWriterdude]

Originally Posted by rkoco321

We're past the point of drastically improving public transportation in NYC. We've reach our limits for expansion.

Sure you can make slight improvements. CBTC, bus lanes, better rolling stock, but it costs a ton of money and the benefit is marginal really especially if ridership increases.

You can add more trains and buses, but where are we going to store and maintain them? We can barely maintain what we have now.

50 years ago was the time to do it. They should of expanded the subways into the further outer borough limits and built up the commuter railroad network. Getting in and out of Penn Station is a joke, so is GCT, it's insane we make due with what we got. Still no direct connection with Rockland County to NYC via railroad.

People thought ride share and e hail was going to be a band aid, instead we created more congestion, and the drivers barely make a livable wage.

Cities all around the world are expanding their mass transit networks.

The city has plenty of land it can use for train yards. They simply use eminent domain for these types of proceedings.


The city has nowhere near reached it´s limits for expansion. The network has actually SHRANK since 1940