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Old 05-17-2012, 03:59 PM
 
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Old white male networks like Hevesi, Kruger, Vincent Leibell, Brian McLaughlin etc?

If they weren't white they'd be in prison right now.

Hmmmm. Now look how long before the system caught up with their corruption. Grey haired and millionaires.

John Liu, hardly that.

Try to be intelligent and not defensive.
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Old 05-17-2012, 04:02 PM
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Hmmmm. Now look how long before the system caught up with their corruption. Grey haired and millionaires.

John Liu, hardly that.

Try to be intelligent and not defensive.
Ad hominem is a good strategy if you have nothing substantive I suppose.
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Old 05-17-2012, 04:04 PM
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Yes time will tell. Evidence is they land the entry level professionjal jobs but are seen as being too "meek" to be romoted as managers.

Asians in general and Asian MALES in particular, have a number of issues to deal with in the real world. Indeed Asian males suffer from the reverse stereotype that black men do to the point where many Asian women dont want them. Check out Asian sites and there is this dynamic. There is a dychotomy between Asian females who ahve high intermarriage rates and Asin males who are now intermarrying at LOWER rates than are black males.

Now these comments refer to the 2nd generation Asians. By the 3rd generation they are equivalent to whites...not meek and not especially successful academically. And yes just as likely to do liberal arts as a ciop out from the more challenging STEM or Finance courses.

So many from brutalized backgrounds confuse self-control for meekness, conflate swagger with strength and think that politeness means weakness.
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Old 05-17-2012, 06:11 PM
 
Location: NY/LA
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Yes time will tell. Evidence is they land the entry level professionjal jobs but are seen as being too "meek" to be romoted as managers.

Asians in general and Asian MALES in particular, have a number of issues to deal with in the real world. Indeed Asian males suffer from the reverse stereotype that black men do to the point where many Asian women dont want them. Check out Asian sites and there is this dynamic. There is a dychotomy between Asian females who ahve high intermarriage rates and Asin males who are now intermarrying at LOWER rates than are black males.

Now these comments refer to the 2nd generation Asians. By the 3rd generation they are equivalent to whites...not meek and not especially successful academically. And yes just as likely to do liberal arts as a ciop out from the more challenging STEM or Finance courses.
I don't know what evidence you've seen, but I work with several Asian-American Senior Managers and Directors at a Fortune 500 company, mostly in their 30s. Give it a decade or two.
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Old 05-17-2012, 06:15 PM
 
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I notice pretty much all of the Indo Guyanese live in Queens and the Afro-Guyanese live in Brooklyn.
This is a stupid question, but I assume you're talking about Indians as in Native Americans (basically, people from before Columbus was here), not people from South Asia, right? Because I remember on Yahoo Answers a girl was talking about being Guyanese and having relatives back in India and something about her ancestors being sold into slavery.

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Parkchester had a very open and blatant policy of "NO BLACKS" until 1979, for example) is actually very impressive.
And the irony is that now it's predominantly Black.

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^2 not really. a few asians are doing better in everything than
all white americans combined? come on, man lol. don't make
me laugh. why aren't asians the majority running public office
by now then?
I remember reading an article talking about wealth in this country (it was one of those Yahoo! News links) and it said that a large number of the people in the "capitalist class" (people who worked hard and were able to start a successful business) were Asians. I remember hearing the number 80%, but that sounds high.

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Every single specialized high school in NYC is majority asian.
Not SI Tech, but that's because SI obviously has a lot of White kids. But still, in a borough that's only 7% Asian, it manages to have a student body population that's 24% Asian. (I could've sworn it used to be higher. I remember seeing 31% a couple of years ago).
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Old 05-17-2012, 06:31 PM
 
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This is a stupid question, but I assume you're talking about Indians as in Native Americans (basically, people from before Columbus was here), not people from South Asia, right? Because I remember on Yahoo Answers a girl was talking about being Guyanese and having relatives back in India and something about her ancestors being sold into slavery.
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That is how Guyanese refer to Indian descended people from Guyana.
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Old 05-17-2012, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Pelham Parkway,The Bronx
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I remember reading an article talking about wealth in this country (it was one of those Yahoo! News links) and it said that a large number of the people in the "capitalist class" (people who worked hard and were able to start a successful business) were Asians. I remember hearing the number 80%, but that sounds high.........
Virtually every new small business that opens in my neighborhood now is owned by Asians.A disproportionally high number of apartments and houses are also being bought by Asians.
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Old 05-17-2012, 06:56 PM
 
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according to the census in 2010
NYC children under 18
total 1,768,111
White 438,485 (24.8%)
Black 441,237 (25.0%)
Hispanic 626,872 (35.5%)
Asian 196,367 (11.1%)
A. Indian 5,692 (.3%)
other 59,458 (3.4%)

public school %
40.3 percent Hispanic, 32 percent black, 14.9 percent white and 13.7 percent Asian

now factor in around 1/4th of all white children are Orthodox Jewish (and therefore send their kids to parochial schools) and around 1/8th of other whites are also in parochial schools.
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Old 05-17-2012, 07:30 PM
 
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Virtually every new small business that opens in my neighborhood now is owned by Asians.A disproportionally high number of apartments and houses are also being bought by Asians.
Well, there is the streotype of Koreans owning laudromats and grocery stores and Indians owning delis. It is definitely true to a certain extent.

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now factor in around 1/4th of all white children are Orthodox Jewish (and therefore send their kids to parochial schools) and around 1/8th of other whites are also in parochial schools.
How do you know the percentage of Orthodox Jews? And in any case, sometimes Whites send their kids to a parochial school because the alternative is going to public school, not that they're hyper-religious. I had friends in middle school that fell into that category (or rather their parents fell into that category).
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Old 05-17-2012, 08:00 PM
 
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Well, there is the streotype of Koreans owning laudromats and grocery stores and Indians owning delis. It is definitely true to a certain extent.



How do you know the percentage of Orthodox Jews? And in any case, sometimes Whites send their kids to a parochial school because the alternative is going to public school, not that they're hyper-religious. I had friends in middle school that fell into that category (or rather their parents fell into that category).
putting all these information together gets you around 1/4th of all white children in NYC are Orthodox
1. the day school census.
2. looking at all the white children in census tracts and trying to figure out the Orthodox % of white non Hispanic children.
3. according to the Jewish Federation in 2002 there were 146,000 Orthodox children in NYC, LI, and Westchester. (there is no way that number went down in the past 10 years)

putting all 3 of these information together 1/4th seems to be right.
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