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Old 01-01-2013, 02:28 PM
 
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I'm getting impatient lately with all the tips on holiday tipping. Even the TV news programs are doing segments on how much to tip - with one outrageous person saying you should tip doormen a minimum of $100-$200.

Here are some idle questions from the opposite perspective. Do you think doormen/supers keep track from year to year what people give them? Do you think if someone tips less than others, or tips less than the previous year, they take a moment to ponder whether the lower amount might be due to their own failings? Do you think that staff ever stops to ponder that their income may be on a par with the resident's? Do you think doormen ever realize that most of them have cushy, moderately well-paid jobs and rarely do anything exceptional that merits tips?

I was particularly thinking about this since there is someone so useless in my building that this year I decided not to tip him at all.
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Old 01-01-2013, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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I think the point of saying 100-200 is to get you to think 25-75 is now a small amount. Human's are very impressionable beings...
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Old 01-01-2013, 02:40 PM
 
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Holidays are over, maybe everyone will stop sticking their hand out... naa, never happen.
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Old 01-01-2013, 03:00 PM
 
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To be honest I don't think anybody tips the porters in my building, or the super...
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Old 01-01-2013, 03:11 PM
 
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I wonder what the average salary for an NYC doorman is like. I'm sure it's not like a waitress job that's beneath minimum wage and therefore relies on tips. The only thing the doormen in my building do is open the doors. They don't handle packages, deliveries, they don't hail cabs, nothing else. And sometimes they don't even open the door because they're too busy chatting across the foyer with the concierge. I didn't bother with a tip this year.
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Old 01-01-2013, 03:36 PM
 
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I'm getting impatient lately with all the tips on holiday tipping. Even the TV news programs are doing segments on how much to tip - with one outrageous person saying you should tip doormen a minimum of $100-$200.

Here are some idle questions from the opposite perspective. Do you think doormen/supers keep track from year to year what people give them?
Yes. Everybody in the service industry does this.

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Do you think if someone tips less than others, or tips less than the previous year, they take a moment to ponder whether the lower amount might be due to their own failings?
Nope.


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Do you think that staff ever stops to ponder that their income may be on a par with the resident's?
What??? Are you serious?? Most doormen work at LUXURY BUILDINGS with people making some of the highest incomes in the city. Again, are you SERIOUS???

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Do you think doormen ever realize that most of them have cushy, moderately well-paid jobs and rarely do anything exceptional that merits tips?
You sound like a cheapskate.

Go ahead and give your doorman $5 and see how he treats you from then on out. You'll deserve it.

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I was particularly thinking about this since there is someone so useless in my building that this year I decided not to tip him at all.
Have you ever asked him to help you with anything?

Has he ever been rude to you?

Have you ever considered that there might be things going on HIS personal life that may or may not be affecting his supposed to be "happy" attitude?

Why would you NOT give him anything at all?

I can see doing this to a NYC super (many of them are useless), but most doormen tend to go out of their way with not only customer service, but as snitches to the landlords.
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Old 01-01-2013, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado
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I'm getting impatient lately with all the tips on holiday tipping. Even the TV news programs are doing segments on how much to tip - with one outrageous person saying you should tip doormen a minimum of $100-$200.

Here are some idle questions from the opposite perspective. Do you think doormen/supers keep track from year to year what people give them? Do you think if someone tips less than others, or tips less than the previous year, they take a moment to ponder whether the lower amount might be due to their own failings? Do you think that staff ever stops to ponder that their income may be on a par with the resident's? Do you think doormen ever realize that most of them have cushy, moderately well-paid jobs and rarely do anything exceptional that merits tips?

I was particularly thinking about this since there is someone so useless in my building that this year I decided not to tip him at all.
My brother in law says that their doormen keep track of who gives and who doesn't. I think he tips them $100. I think that they have a hard job (any customer service job requires that you put up with a fair number of jerks). So that seems a minimal amount.
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Old 01-01-2013, 03:38 PM
 
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I wonder what the average salary for an NYC doorman is like. I'm sure it's not like a waitress job that's beneath minimum wage and therefore relies on tips. The only thing the doormen in my building do is open the doors. They don't handle packages, deliveries, they don't hail cabs, nothing else. And sometimes they don't even open the door because they're too busy chatting across the foyer with the concierge. I didn't bother with a tip this year.
Nothing at all? Not even $25? $5? A scratch off lottery ticket??
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Old 01-01-2013, 03:45 PM
 
Location: London
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Nothing at all? Not even $25? $5? A scratch off lottery ticket??
Where exactly do you live? You're always posting here, so I didn't realize you weren't living in NYC until it was mentioned in the other thread.
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Old 01-01-2013, 03:47 PM
 
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I think that if you give the people that work in your building some kind of tip even a small one, they have better attitude toward you during the year when you need them to do some work in your apt.
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