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Old 01-03-2013, 10:34 AM
 
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The new year begins with a bang:
9 shot, none killed in separate NY shootings - WSJ.com
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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University Heights has had 2 shootings and a stabbing already!

183rd and Grand ave, Police involved shooting.

Police involved shooting in the Bronx - New York News | NYC Breaking News

^ Heavy drug spot.

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An hour later, a 24-year-old man was popped in the buttocks after a fight broke out between a large group near Jerome Avenue and West Fordham Road in the Fordham Heights neighborhood of The Bronx, cops said.
Gun mayhem in early hours of 2013: 9 shot as year begins - NYPOST.com

There was also a stabbing on Jerome ave and 183rd street, which I can't find.
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Old 01-03-2013, 01:34 PM
 
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You must be so proud! The city usually starts with a bang...NYE/holidays and the parties surrounding it are notorious for problems. Put a bunch of dumb broke people together, add alcohol and drugs, stir vigorously to the sounds of reggaeton, bachata, and reagga, and enjoy! Works every time!

I know when I was younger there was not an x-mas or NYE that went by without a major family fight of some sort, with cops making their appearance more times than not.
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Old 01-03-2013, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Ridgewood, NY
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You must be so proud! The city usually starts with a bang...NYE/holidays and the parties surrounding it are notorious for problems. Put a bunch of dumb broke people together, add alcohol and drugs, stir vigorously to the sounds of reggaeton, bachata, and reagga, and enjoy! Works every time!

I know when I was younger there was not an x-mas or NYE that went by without a major family fight of some sort, with cops making their appearance more times than not.
And then you wonder why the crime thread doesn't see as much activity as it did in previous years...
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Old 01-04-2013, 12:00 AM
 
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Bronx mother becomes city's first murder victim of the year as she takes a bullet to save her daughter - NY Daily News
Victim was a school crossing guard, shot by daughter's ex, visiting from Virginia. Did he bring the gun with him?

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Old 01-04-2013, 12:06 AM
 
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Three cops shot in two incidents in the Bronx, Brooklyn* - NY Daily News
One perp dead, not to be counted as a murder!

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Old 01-04-2013, 08:09 AM
 
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Well it isn't a murder...now is it? Neither is taking 50 pills and killing yourself...lunestra didn't murder you. There are different categories.
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Old 01-04-2013, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Well it isn't a murder...now is it? Neither is taking 50 pills and killing yourself...lunestra didn't murder you. There are different categories.
What kind of drug is LUNESTRA?
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Old 01-04-2013, 10:12 AM
 
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You are a big boy...google it.
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Old 01-04-2013, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Ridgewood, NY
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Seeing as how this occured once again, I could respond to you on this thread as opposed to the 2012 crime thread... You remember how you asked me if that was an acceptable answer to my question as to why there was only one murder listed when three murders occured within the same precinct?

My answer to that question is that I expected no less of compstat and the task force... Who in the hell gets to decide justifiable homicide... How is one life more valuable than another if both are murdered the same way... So you're telling me if a cop was to be shot and killed his murder would tally but if the cop and the perp were in a firefight and both are shot and killed, only one counts? How does that make any sense in your mind?

To give you examples, what about a mother killing an abusive husband who decided that enough is enough and she won't take it anymore... Is that a justifiable homicide? What about a mother protecting her children from a husband or partner who is a child abuser? Is that a justifiable homicide? Murders like these happen everyday and yet they get counted as homicides nonetheless...

My point is, what I have noticed about this city in terms of murder statistics that I have not seen anywhere else, is that this city has such a limited view of what constitutes murder in this city, that murderers can practically get away with anything as long as they are in the proper circumstances or know how to cheat the system a little bit...

For example from what I believe you and one other cop on this cite have told me these are situations that have happened this year that weren't considered homicides...

Cops involved in a firefight killing the perpetrators... (Justifiable Homicide)
Reckless driving killing a pedestrian (Deemed accidental manslaughter)
Arson leading to a murder (Deemed accidental manslaughter)
Questionable bodies floating in the hudson (Deemed automatic suicide)

When you continue to go down the list of what actually constitutes a murder in this city... It really is no wonder why the murder rate is so small...
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