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Old 08-18-2013, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Ubique
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Constitutionally you have the right to bear arms to defend your home or say go hunting. It doesn' mean you can have your gun wherever or do whatever with it.
Constitution of which country are you reading?
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Old 08-18-2013, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Gun nuts as usual are highjacking this thread to moan and whine about their obsession with guns.

But since they brought it up.

What does constitute an 'arm' ?
Is it a any firearm ?

How about other armament ?

Is an RPG an arm protected under the second amendment?

How about a nuclear based 'arm'?
Or an F16?
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Old 08-18-2013, 09:35 AM
 
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Kefir is 100% right. Anytime the court creates law, it is working outside of its intended and codified purpose and permissions. The Court exists to ensure Congress and the President work within the confines of the Constitution, nothing more.

"...shall not be infringed," doesn't need to be interpreted by SCOTUS and cannot legally be changed by Congress without an amendment being approved. ALL guns laws are unconstitutional, plain and simple, just as much police searches without warrants are.
The Supreme ruled those gun laws constitutional, and therefore they are. The court is working exactly as it was intended to work. It just didn't rule as you wanted it to.
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Old 08-18-2013, 09:39 AM
 
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Good questions -- lemme wake up Michael Moore to give you the answers you want to hear.

If you followed the thread -- guns were brought up as an examples when some people pick and choose when to follow the Constitution. For example choosing the Constitution on the S&F, but ignoring it the right to bear arms.
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Old 08-18-2013, 09:41 AM
 
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The Supreme ruled those gun laws constitutional, and therefore they are. The court is working exactly as it was intended to work. It just didn't rule as you wanted it to.
I am not against those SCOTUS rulings, but SCOTUS is hardly the Constitutional watchdog you portray it to be.
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Old 08-18-2013, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Yea and in logic that's called 'red herring fallacy'. It's way to deflect from the actual argument.
If You gun nuts wanna discuss the second amendment I suggest you post in one of the 10,000 threads this forum has on this subject.
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Old 08-18-2013, 09:49 AM
 
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If You gun nuts wanna discuss the second amendment I suggest you post in one of the 10,000 threads this forum has on this subject.
If you want me to use about a 1000 adjectives for you, none of them very too pleasing, I would be happy to oblige, but it would violate the rules here

So let's keep it civil. Can you do that?
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Old 08-18-2013, 09:50 AM
 
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Yea and in logic that's called 'red herring fallacy'. It's way to deflect from the actual argument.
If You gun nuts wanna discuss the second amendment I suggest you post in one of the 10,000 threads this forum has on this subject.
And if you want to refer to an issue like an adult, you don't use the term "gun nut".
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Old 08-18-2013, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Somebody who proclaims that 'all gun laws are unconstitutional' as another guy said in this thread IS the very definition of a gun nut.
Or would you prefer I call him 'mentally unstable gun advocate'? Please.

Last edited by likeminas; 08-18-2013 at 10:07 AM..
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Old 08-18-2013, 10:12 AM
 
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Somebody who proclaims that 'all gun laws are unconstitutional' as another guy said in this thread IS the very definition of a gun nut.
Or would you prefer I call him 'mentally unstable gun advocate'? Please.

Don't put your hand in my face like some sassy, mid-twenties broad...


And if you want to really get down to it, they are all unconstitutional. Technically. That's all he's sayin.
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