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Old 10-21-2013, 03:38 PM
 
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This is one reason why many informed people are against entitlement programs like Obamacare. The problem is once you givith, you can't takeith. Meaning once a social entitlement program is issued, you can't take it back or there will be civil unrest. Even if obamacare turns out to be a train wreck which many are predicting, people benefiting from it would kick and scream if they dare try to take it away.

Same is happening with welfare and section 8. Oh god forbid they try to take away welfare and section 8, the underclass would have a heart attack.
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Old 10-21-2013, 04:05 PM
 
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This is one reason why many informed people are against entitlement programs like Obamacare.
Obamacare aka "Affordable Care Act" is NOT an "entitlement" program.

We have to pay for it and I am honestly against being FORCED to purchase something from the government that I don't want.

I don't want to be fined and/or jailed I don't purchase it.

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Old 10-21-2013, 04:32 PM
 
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This is one reason why many informed people are against entitlement programs like Obamacare. The problem is once you givith, you can't takeith. Meaning once a social entitlement program is issued, you can't take it back or there will be civil unrest. Even if obamacare turns out to be a train wreck which many are predicting, people benefiting from it would kick and scream if they dare try to take it away.

Same is happening with welfare and section 8. Oh god forbid they try to take away welfare and section 8, the underclass would have a heart attack.
To be completely fair, if the government just instantly ended up Section 8 cases you'd have a lot of people out on the street, plus landlords would probably burn their buildings down for the insurance money or otherwise lose them to banks in defaults. It would be an utter disaster.

How you handle this is you more gradually reduce Section 8 and welfare caseloads. You also gradually reduce the number of apartments that take Section 8. While this is going on, you also more actively encourage people to work.

Btw, I do support section 8 for genuinely disabled people (there's disability fraud out there, so some people fake it/bull**** it to get SSI).
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Old 10-21-2013, 04:39 PM
 
Location: where people are either too stupid to leave or too stuck to move
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The Bodegas will just be selling a little less beer.
You can't buy liquor with food stamps!
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Old 10-21-2013, 04:44 PM
 
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somebody better tell all the folks doing it and the store owners who put the deals together that allow it to go through the system.
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Old 10-21-2013, 04:46 PM
 
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somebody better tell all the folks doing it and the store owners who put the deals together that allow it to go through the system.
You do know that the EBT card also contains CASH BENEFITS as well, right?
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Old 10-21-2013, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Sacramento, Ca.
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This is one reason why many informed people are against entitlement programs like Obamacare. The problem is once you givith, you can't takeith. Meaning once a social entitlement program is issued, you can't take it back or there will be civil unrest. Even if obamacare turns out to be a train wreck which many are predicting, people benefiting from it would kick and scream if they dare try to take it away.

Same is happening with welfare and section 8. Oh god forbid they try to take away welfare and section 8, the underclass would have a heart attack.
I'd hoped that the only time you would look down on those "underclass" people was while you were helping them up.
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Old 10-21-2013, 04:52 PM
 
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buying un-authorized products is done all the time with food stamps.

many deli's do not do individual scans like a supermarket.

they just put the card through as a regular sale and the items are never picked up on. .

many ebt holders cash in their food stamp credits for .50 cents on the dollar at the stores and buy whatever they like.

http://reason.com/blog/2013/08/21/fo...ettes-and-beer


http://www.americanownews.com/story/...s-still-abused
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Old 10-21-2013, 05:04 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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somebody better tell all the folks doing it and the store owners who put the deals together that allow it to go through the system.
Must agree, and it is more common than people realize. I see it every day.
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Old 10-21-2013, 05:07 PM
 
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Must agree, and it is more common than people realize. I see it every day.
Stop lying. You don't see *ish ANYWHERE.
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