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Old 01-08-2017, 10:52 AM
 
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I didn't say don't allow people from all over to come to NY. I said don't pay for them.
True I think that when people came over on the boat they had to prove hey had somewhere to live and someone had to come get them.
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Old 01-08-2017, 05:13 PM
 
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Good rundown, makes sense.

Also legal grass will help people escape from the pain.

I'd add, in the summer, give them tents and move them to Staten Island or some other spot with food and temp toilets.

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L.A. has a humongous homeless pop, take some lessons from L.A. No need to house the homeless year round if it busts the budget, just keep them from freezing in the winter.
Staten Island won't allow itself to become a dumping ground for NYC's homeless. If you've been to Skid Row, Los Angeles, there's no way NYC would ever allow that in the city as it would make parts of the city unusable. LA's homeless population causes economic damage. NYC probably figures it's just better to get many of them off the streets and house them.
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Old 01-08-2017, 05:55 PM
 
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This knowledge has increasingly spread outside NYC, and for people in desperate situations, it may present the only viable option they see. The problem will get worse, not better, as we have seen in the last few years.
Questions to ask are from which states do these emigrants come from, and why can't they find better tidings in their home states? What kind of public servants did they elect to run these states?
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Old 01-08-2017, 07:13 PM
 
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Staten Island won't allow itself to become a dumping ground for NYC's homeless. If you've been to Skid Row, Los Angeles, there's no way NYC would ever allow that in the city as it would make parts of the city unusable. LA's homeless population causes economic damage. NYC probably figures it's just better to get many of them off the streets and house them.


NYC already sends plenty of homeless to Staten Island, but since you've never been the place guess you didn't know. They were sending people to hotels/motels, but a nasty triple murder (man killed is common law wife and her kids), helped put the kibosh on that. However homeless are still given the same priority to public housing (the projects) as elsewhere in the city.


All this piled onto the local Staten Island homeless situation which grows each year. North, South Shores, you see plenty of homeless. This as the South Shore local government representatives are fighting to the mattresses in order to stop NYC from building a homeless shelter in their area. Councilmen Borelli and Matteo oppose zoning change for mixed-use housing | SILive.com


https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/201...-island-hotels


Staten Island may still get a new homeless shelter | SILive.com


Staten Island homeless shelter for addicts closed despite growing need | SILive.com


Staten Island has very little RS or RC housing, much of the rentals are market rate (legal and illegal apartments). People fall behind and or cannot pay their rent there isn't much that can be done to help them; I mean when your LL lives down or up stairs you can only avoid them but for so long. So people end up on the street unless they have family or friends willing to take them in.
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Old 01-09-2017, 03:26 AM
 
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NYC already sends plenty of homeless to Staten Island, but since you've never been the place guess you didn't know. They were sending people to hotels/motels, but a nasty triple murder (man killed is common law wife and her kids), helped put the kibosh on that. However homeless are still given the same priority to public housing (the projects) as elsewhere in the city.


All this piled onto the local Staten Island homeless situation which grows each year. North, South Shores, you see plenty of homeless. This as the South Shore local government representatives are fighting to the mattresses in order to stop NYC from building a homeless shelter in their area. Councilmen Borelli and Matteo oppose zoning change for mixed-use housing | SILive.com


https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/201...-island-hotels


Staten Island may still get a new homeless shelter | SILive.com


Staten Island homeless shelter for addicts closed despite growing need | SILive.com


Staten Island has very little RS or RC housing, much of the rentals are market rate (legal and illegal apartments). People fall behind and or cannot pay their rent there isn't much that can be done to help them; I mean when your LL lives down or up stairs you can only avoid them but for so long. So people end up on the street unless they have family or friends willing to take them in.
The person who proposed sending homeless suggested that NYC let large numbers of homeless live outsides in tents during the summer like they do in Los Angeles. From what you're telling me, NYC does not dump homeless in Staten Island like that. Putting them in shelters or in hotels/motels is a bit different, because while NYC has the largest SHELTERED homeless population, Los Angeles has the largest unsheltered.

As for the hotels, as of Dec. 2016, city wide the homeless population in hotels was still growing, and had grown 300% of what the numbers were in Jan. 2016.
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Old 01-09-2017, 11:55 AM
 
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DeBozio is going to bankrupt this city

WE MUST STOP HIM NEXT ELECTION

wake the **** up people
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Old 01-09-2017, 01:23 PM
 
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Terrible

It really is.


You're talking about OP's grammar right?
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Old 01-09-2017, 08:04 PM
 
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DeBozio is going to bankrupt this city

WE MUST STOP HIM NEXT ELECTION

wake the **** up people
It's 2017 and there's no credible talk of a primary opponent, or a Republican who is going to run against him. He is going to get reelected.
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Old 01-11-2017, 12:16 AM
 
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DeBozio is going to bankrupt this city

WE MUST STOP HIM NEXT ELECTION

wake the **** up people
You can't stop him because when he leaves, another idiot progressive will be waiting to take his place. And what do you think they're going to do with all the homeless people? What do you think they're going to do with NYC's finances? They're going to do the exact same thing. Because there a dozens of grievance groups pushing NYC to 'spend more' on the homeless, or the poor, or parks, or bike lanes, or art installments in the subway, or whatever else they have their hand out for.
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Old 01-11-2017, 06:37 AM
 
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You can't stop him because when he leaves, another idiot progressive will be waiting to take his place. And what do you think they're going to do with all the homeless people? What do you think they're going to do with NYC's finances? They're going to do the exact same thing. Because there a dozens of grievance groups pushing NYC to 'spend more' on the homeless, or the poor, or parks, or bike lanes, or art installments in the subway, or whatever else they have their hand out for.
NYC had 20 years of Republican mayors though. I do think de Blasio is going to get reelected because no one else has even announced a run, but just pointing out he won't necessarily be replaced by a progressive. If Trump slashes funding to the city, it's possible that New York voters will hate aspects of de Blasio's progressive platforms.

As for what to do about the homeless, on a long term basis address the issues that lead them to homelessness. Throwing lots of money and housing them in commercial hotels is too expensive to be a viable long term solution, and it actually takes middle range hotels off the market for tourists and travelers. I guess now they HAVE to use Airbnb.
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