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Old 07-01-2017, 09:43 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Am going to miss that Kmart, but hopefully what goes in there will be better and help bring back the neighborhood.


Kmart closing in New Dorp to make way for $150M upgrade | SILive.com


More stores closing in Hylan Plaza to make way for $150M mall | SILive.com
Am not sure what you will miss about that place. Is a total dump.
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Old 07-02-2017, 06:37 AM
 
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Stop calling Staten Island the rock. No actual people really call it that, just Bugsy. I think he's contractually obligated to say the rock every time he posts.
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Old 07-02-2017, 06:56 AM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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Agreed. It may have been popular in the past, but I can only think of a handful of times I've heard it in real life.
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Old 07-02-2017, 06:57 AM
 
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Stop calling Staten Island the rock. No actual people really call it that, just Bugsy. I think he's contractually obligated to say the rock every time he posts.

One; you don't tell me what to do. Don't like my posts, then don't read them.


Two, it isn't just me that calls SI "The Rock".


End of discussion.




Is Staten Island 'The Rock?' | SILive.com
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Old 07-02-2017, 07:48 AM
 
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Been here 40 years born and raised not even once have I said the rock nor have i ever heard family, friends, acquaintances, strangers any living human being call SI the rock. I think Bugsy has a rock fetish.
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Old 07-02-2017, 07:54 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Been here 40 years born and raised not even once have I said the rock nor have i ever heard family, friends, acquaintances, strangers any living human being call SI the rock. I think Bugsy has a rock fetish.
Am here to say if one is old enough, can remember hearing such things. Lived on the island myself and can say I haven't heard many people use it either. Have friends that now live in NJ or whatever who lived all over the South Shore... Tottenville and a few other places. Have never heard the term either.
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Old 07-02-2017, 07:56 AM
 
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When did you start using Bugsy's manner of speech?
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Old 07-02-2017, 08:04 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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For the OP, if willing to look around, can perhaps find a good deal in areas near Victory Boulevard. Can confirm good transportation to the ferry or whatever, and access to amenities within walking distance depending on the location.
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Old 07-02-2017, 08:25 AM
 
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Do yourself a favor pal; forget that property and consider something a bit more simple. *LOL*


https://www.google.com/maps/@40.5608...7i13312!8i6656


For the record IIRC John Clacker is or was the owner of this place:


https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/201...-3-years-later



New Dorp Beach was heavily damaged by Sandy (look at the Goggle street view link I posted; you'll see the water is just down the street/back yard).


As such it is almost certain not only does that Neutral Avenue property require FI, but likely the homes need to be raised. Fact that 29 Neutral is being offered as an "investment/income" instead of strictly for sale tells me that the home as currently constructed cannot be lived in; and must be raised.


Have friends who themselves and or family members live out in New Dorp Beach and area, it isn't pretty.


New Dorp itself is another matter: but even post Sandy there have been and still are issues:
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/16/r...y.html?mcubz=0


Staten Island Sunday: Sights and scenes in New Dorp Beach | SILive.com


Many of the old homes built south of Hylan blvd were summer cottages/shacks that never were meant for year round living (for obvious reasons). However over the years that is what they became, and worse developers piled on more housing. This again despite warnings from locals who knew that even during a mild rain storm the place floods. Then and now smart people didn't or don't buy below Hylan Blvd.


If you ever fly over that part of SI you'll notice it looks much like New Orleans; a low lying area mostly of wetlands. Mother Nature knew what she was doing for hundreds of years before anyone even thought of moving out there. Early settlers and the Indians before them knew as well. But by the 1980's certain people had to have their taste and development out there zoomed.


I remember when Staten Island Hospital first moved out there; it was pretty much empty, that as in the 1980's. Went to take a family member out there in the late 1990's and couldn't believe how much development took place. Yet when it rained, people got flooded, that should have been their first clue.


Long story short (again) after superstorm Sandy taxpayers forked over pre-storm value for many homeowners who really had no business being out there to begin with. Developers pushed (and politicians lined their pockets from) the idea that developing homes south of Hylan gave families a chance at owning a home they could "afford".
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5...32336110_zpid/

This property seems a bit less complex. I'm wondering why it's so cheap? It's in my price range and I could fix it up. But this is 3 doors from the beach.. Do you think this property would need to be raised? *I'd also appreciate if anyone could look up the tax records on this property seems it was sold it 2016 which is awfully recent to be on the market again* ON a side note Which part of New Dorp do your friends live in?
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Old 07-02-2017, 08:27 AM
 
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OP, again am suggesting you do yourself a favor; reach out to one of the excellent local real estate people out on the Rock. Heck they may offer to pick-up and drop off you and your family at the ferry.


We here can tell you any and everything, but you really need to work some shoe leather and see SI for yourself. Since you don't drive this will be a bit more difficult, but it has to be done one way or another.


This and or try to find someone with a car willing to drive you out and around Staten Island. There are some excellent restaurants and other attractions so you can make a very good day of things.


We here know nothing about you, and that is as it should be; but what I or anyone else may consider a "good area" of Staten Island may or may not be up your street.


Finally strongly suggest if you are seriously considering moving to SI that you (again) learn how to drive. Living on SI with a car dramatically opens up all sorts of options, which is why the place has the highest rate of vehicle ownership in NYC.


If you truly wish or must remain a not driving/vehicle owner, again suggest you look at certain north or east shore areas. Saint George, New Brighton, Rosebank, etc.... These are areas with an easy walk to the ferry and or good bus or even train service. Bay Street from Saint George onto Rosebank is coming up. Rosebank is actually a very nice area, though don't know if you'll find anything in your budget range.


Yes, there are parts of New Brighton, West Brighton that you should stay out of, but again if you know where to look there are some very nice areas that are perfectly "safe".


Many people turned up their noses at Saint George and New Brighton just a few years ago, now are kicking themselves because they cannot get anything down there for their price.


People without the preconceived notions about North Shore have and are moving to areas like Saint George with no problems.
Can you personally recommend any real estate agents? Would hate to be conned.
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