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Old 05-06-2018, 03:26 PM
 
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I will say that there's a tendency to lump all Spanish speakers together, regardless of what color skin they have or what country they come from (even Spaniards). Once Spanish is heard, I've seen people make faces. I saw this Dominican kid speaking in Spanish in the Bronx, and an older black guy gave him a dirty look because the kid clearly had black in him (mulatto with curly hair - skin complexion of a light skin mixed AA person), so the black guy's assumption was he's black looking the way he looked and didn't think he had a right speaking Spanish to distance himself from his black ancestry. Some people believe in the one drop rule, so they find it ironic that Hispanics get to pick what their background is but others with mixed backgrounds can't. Here a half black half white person 9/10 out of ten is considered black, but a Hispanic person with the same mixture can check off white. The irony isn't lost on me. lol

Earlier today I was picking up some lunch from Le Pain Quotidien. More Spanish speakers likely from Spain based on their accents. The cashier was not necessarily pleased. It seemed to pain her to hear Spanish. lol
I think people will generally discriminate or not based on the information they have, of which the most obvious is how the person looks. So if someone looks white, no matter what their actual background, they will be treated as such. I agree that there is an exception for Spanish speakers in general though, who can face some discrimination no matter how they appear.

Some people who are 1/2 black and white may be considered black by white people but not black by black people. This is what my daughter says anyway. She refers to herself as biracial or mixed. That one drop rule seems to be a thing of the past.
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Old 05-06-2018, 03:31 PM
 
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I think people will generally discriminate or not based on the information they have, of which the most obvious is how the person looks. So if someone looks white, no matter what their actual background, they will be treated as such. I agree that there is an exception for Spanish speakers in general though, who can face some discrimination no matter how they appear.

Some people who are 1/2 black and white may be considered black by white people but not black by black people. This is what my daughter says anyway. She refers to herself as biracial or mixed. That one drop rule seems to be a thing of the past.
Black people seem to be overwhelmingly accepting of 1/2 black people. And in my experience, sometimes black people will insist that an obvious mixed race person is not mixed but "light skin".
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Old 05-06-2018, 03:34 PM
 
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Black people seem to be overwhelmingly accepting of 1/2 black people. And in my experience, sometimes black people will insist that an obvious mixed race person is not mixed but "light skin".
It works both ways. The "purists" will claim that mixed people are not black.
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Old 05-06-2018, 04:00 PM
 
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Black people seem to be overwhelmingly accepting of 1/2 black people. And in my experience, sometimes black people will insist that an obvious mixed race person is not mixed but "light skin".
She's heard that too. Maybe it's generational, her experience has been with adolescents, not adults.
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Old 05-06-2018, 04:19 PM
 
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If Hispanic people as a whole were white, they would not be discriminated against. And I would be willing to bet money that very few Hispanics born in NYC or the US in general consider themselves white. I am only 1/4 Hispanic, not even 1/5 indigenous according to my DNA test, and I question myself all the time whether or not I should consider myself white.

That's why people tend to use the "non-Hispanic white" figure when trying to gauge an area's white population.
Do people tend not to think you look white?

My husband's father immigrated from Central America (afro-latino), but my husband considers himself black (and not hispanic). I imagine that if other people assumed he were hispanic from his looks, he'd feel differently. There are a lot of Spanish speakers where we live, but he says no one ever comes up to him and speaks Spanish, but it happens to me sometimes and I'm white.
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Old 05-06-2018, 04:27 PM
 
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And I would wager that she's checking off Hispanic because she thinks affirmative action will increase her chances of getting in.
Yes she is, she admits this.
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Old 05-06-2018, 04:30 PM
 
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Not true. It’s possible for white people to discriminate each other and kill each other. Europe has long had problems with ethnic and religious violence.
Um, yeah, you can say that again.
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Old 05-06-2018, 04:47 PM
 
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Do people tend not to think you look white?
WASP has a large influence on what is considered white in both appearance and mannerism. Mediterranean race is a separate sub-category of white.
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Old 05-06-2018, 05:05 PM
 
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WASP has a large influence on what is considered white in both appearance and mannerism. Mediterranean race is a separate sub-category of white.
Mediterraneans are considered white.
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Old 05-06-2018, 05:10 PM
 
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Mediterraneans are considered white.
To who? If you think I don't get discriminate by WASP and thought of as a trashy version of white at best you are mistaken. At worse, mediterranean is mixed enough that one drop rule would apply. Who can say they don't have moors ancestry.
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