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I’m not arguing with you at all. It’s your choice how you want to live, of course. But why in the world someone would prefer a walk-up building over a modern high-rise or mid-rise is beyond me. Living in NYC is tough enough without having to carry groceries, laundry, and furniture up several flights of stairs. Then, since walk-ups in NYC tend to be old, especially in Manhattan, you would probably have fire escapes outside your window and run the risk of actually having to use them if there is a blaze. Or having an intruder climb in. Plus fire escapes are unsightly.
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@Lillie767, thanks for the school recommendations. I do know of Juilliard but will look into the public options. Kid is not at that level yet.
@Queensguy72, thanks for your thoughts. It all helps me figure this out.
@macnyc2003, I've actually been looking into this more and think a 6 plus story building will be a better option or a high rise. I've lived in high rises before and they have everything but the character is missing. The safety issue is definitely high on my priority list due to the kid.
Any thoughts on pre-war, 6 plus stories versus high rises?
Bay Ridge in southwest Brooklyn. One seat ride to the WTC area on the R train. [You will read that it is slow. It is not slow. It is a local, makes many stops, gets in and out of each quickly, it goes as fast as it can.] Also has express bus service to Manhattan.Safe middle and working class area with many four and six story buildings, some with elevators, some without. Nice 2-story library. Many restaurants of varied ethnicities on 3rd Avenue. Schools are crowded but regarded as good. Lots of parkland. If you need more urban grunginess you can visit Sunset Park just to the north.
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It's a bit of a longer commute (though direct and you can usually get a seat getting on in FiDi), but I would consider the UWS close to the 2/3. That would have you closer to Juilliard, if your child is that caliber of musician. Plenty of reasonably-priced walk-up apartments in brownstones. Active city life but not obnoxious nightlife, which is a feature of many downtown neighborhoods. Definitely manageable without a car. The places further out in Queens some people are recommending tend to be more suburban in feel, although of course micro-neighborhoods do vary.
Fortunately, the majority of subway lines do pass through the WTC area, so you have a wide range of choices.
There is nothing suburban about Ridgewood, it is pretty similar to Bushwick.
As a side note, I'm also looking for information on art and music schools for my child at middle and high level.
Besides LaGuardia there's Frank Sinatra in Astoria Queens. LaGuardia is HUGE (3011 students vs. 853 at Sinatra). Well funded, though. Of course students have to be talented, but LaGuardia is also really big on grades for getting in.
LaGuardia also has some sports teams, if that's important.
Professional Performing Arts School in Hell's Kitchen has a middle school as well as High school. Mostly drama, Musical theater, dance, and classical vocal (no instrumental). It's set up so there's the 'base' school on 48th street and then depending on their specialty, students go to outside schools (for instance dancers can go to Alvin Ailey or School of American Ballet). It's also tiny compared to LaGuardia.
Talent Unlimited (has an instrumental program) and High School of Art and Design are on the East Side.
Any thoughts on pre-war, 6 plus stories versus high rises?
Many pre-war walkups will have steam radiator heat - Google search can provide enough stories on that. You might be opening every window to stay cool in the middle of winter. Also pre-war may not have the plumbing to allow modern appliances like a dishwasher.
The advantage is walkups tend to a MUCH cheaper than new high rises and walls may be thicker when it comes to noise between apartments.
Many pre-war walkups will have steam radiator heat - Google search can provide enough stories on that. You might be opening every window to stay cool in the middle of winter. Also pre-war may not have the plumbing to allow modern appliances like a dishwasher.
The advantage is walkups tend to a MUCH cheaper than new high rises and walls may be thicker when it comes to noise between apartments.
Prewar can mean anything from an 1890 Beaux Art walkup to a 1941 Art Deco elevator building, something to keep in mind
I disagree with your assessment of Queens. Austin Street (with its shops and restaurants) in Forest Hills near the 71st/Continential Avenue express E train (which goes to the WTC) definitely is middle class (meaning one rarely see 3rd world immigrants or young kids who are broke in the area as this isn't really an affordable area for them). Forest Hills also has good schools. It is also a relatively safe area.
Forest Hills is extra safe and very kid friendly. However, it doesn't feel anything like Manhattan.
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