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New constitution seems to be accelerating and I have (anecdotal) examples of a few 20-30 somethings moving in from out of state recently (from NJ, Mass, Mid West) to take advantage of the now “cheaper” rents. They work remote, in jobs that have been able to weather the pandemic, and are just biding their time until the fun things of nyc open back up.
Or maybe he's a GenX (like myself) and you're just a millennial snowflake blinded by social justice and wokeness!!! Refusing to call a spade a spade.
This isn't calling a spade a spade. Bed Stuy and Bushwick today are nothing like Bed Stuy and Bushwick were decades ago. Tencent's statement would have still been an exaggeration even 15-20 years ago, but would have been better placed in that period.
Maybe for Bushwick. But Bed-Stuy still has plenty of dangerous spots. TBH the only part of Bed Stuy I like is Stuyvesant Heights.
Bed-Stuy's also a fairly large neighborhood and there's a lot of it that is more or less fine. Stuyvesant Heights is nice, the southwestern portion is essentially like Clinton Hill, the northwestern portion is a mix of industrial and a spread of Hasidic Williamsburg. There is a long stretch of Gates that gets notably wild rough though. You can see all the nicer, somewhat bougie restaurants and bars sort of peter out along those north-south commercial streets as you get closer to that stretch.
Bed-Stuy's also a fairly large neighborhood and there's a lot of it that is more or less fine. Stuyvesant Heights is nice, the southwestern portion is essentially like Clinton Hill, the northwestern portion is a mix of industrial and a spread of Hasidic Williamsburg. There is a long stretch of Gates that gets notably wild rough though. You can see all the nicer, somewhat bougie restaurants and bars sort of peter out along those north-south commercial streets as you get closer to that stretch.
The southwest part of Bed-Stuy: I will admit I haven't walked around there in quite some time, but I remember it being a zombie area. Specifically Fulton Street from Franklin Avenue to the Clinton Hill border.
I know the stretch of Gates Avenue you're talking about, building on each side for a few blocks.
But the only part of the Stuy I show interest in is Stuyvesant Heights. It's the best housing stock in the neighborhood, and the A train is express.
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The southwest part of Bed-Stuy: I will admit I haven't walked around there in quite some time, but I remember it being a zombie area. Specifically Fulton Street from Franklin Avenue to the Clinton Hill border.
I know the stretch of Gates Avenue you're talking about, building on each side for a few blocks.
But the only part of the Stuy I show interest in is Stuyvesant Heights. It's the best housing stock in the neighborhood, and the A train is express.
Depending on who you're talking to, that stretch of Fulton from Franklin to the Clinton Hill border may be just a single block and that block wouldn't be notably bougie or rough but would feature quite a bit of new construction--my memories of that part of Bed-Stuy about a decade ago when I first arrived are hazy, but I'm guessing your impression might be from back then when those buildings weren't there yet.
I agree that Stuyvesant Heights is very nice and seems to have been so for a very long time. I remember it confounded me a bit because I was told the general notion that going out east further from Manhattan in the area meant it would get rougher and rougher, so there was a bit of confusion when an acquaintance who seemed to be pretty well settled and heeled moved out there and invited me over since it was further east than to what seemed to me were pretty rough parts of the city back then. Turned out the area was about as quaint as it comes.
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Depending on who you're talking to, that stretch of Fulton from Franklin to the Clinton Hill border may be just a single block and that block wouldn't be notably bougie or rough but would feature quite a bit of new construction--my memories of that part of Bed-Stuy about a decade ago when I first arrived are hazy, but I'm guessing your impression might be from back then when those buildings weren't there yet.
I agree that Stuyvesant Heights is very nice and seems to have been so for a very long time. I remember it confounded me a bit because I was told the general notion that going out east further from Manhattan in the area meant it would get rougher and rougher, so there was a bit of confusion when an acquaintance who seemed to be pretty well settled and heeled moved out there and invited me over since it was further east than to what seemed to me were pretty rough parts of the city back then. Turned out the area was about as quaint as it comes.
You seem to be pretty knowledgeable about the area. If I may pick your brain...
1. What do you think about the area around the Kosciusko St subway (J) stop?
2. Area around Marcus Garvey and Gates Ave?
3. Malcolm X and Macon?
4. Chauncey St J/Z station?
5. Willoughby and Marcus Garvey?
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