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Old 08-22-2022, 02:19 PM
 
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The "never bet against New York" old saying has proven naysayers wrong time and time again.

Most people who hate on NYC and always speak negatively are usually negative people, and don't like big cities.

Plus NYC has been the "top dog" in the US for centuries, and is constantly ahead of every other city.

When you are #1 and always on top, you'll have a lot of haters--in anything in life.
You're living in the past. The people that made NYC great have left, and been replaced by professional looters, both in government and in populace. It didn't have to be this way, but progressives ruin every city they touch.
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Old 08-22-2022, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Outer Space
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The people who make NYC great are the people who live here not the people who are in the government.....

especially those who stayed when the pandemic hit (most non-new Yorkers left during that time)
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Old 08-22-2022, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Flahrida
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The progressives control the legislature with veto-proof majorities and people who think NYC will "go back to the way it was" are deluding themselves. The State and City will continue their leftward drift, with all the consequences. Even the wealthiest, most devoted NYers have their limits. I used to love NYC and now I wouldn't go back if you paid me. I'd rather remember it the way I last saw it.
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Old 08-22-2022, 06:44 PM
 
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#1 in taxes, lawlessness, decline, negative headlines, wokishness. Constantly ahead of every other city in what?
Facts!
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Old 08-22-2022, 11:09 PM
 
Location: The Bronx
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Not only were these people wrong but now NYC is in one of the tightest real estate markets in her history.

Maybe this is the final straw for me when I hear economist, republicans or miserable people who live or left NY who say NY is dead “forever”.

City is literally bulletproof and can withstand anything and honestly I don’t think a situation like the 1970s will ever happen again or even get to close to those levels.
Talk to some of the restaurant owners who used to close at 4AM because of the excess customers from nearby establishments, many of them now closed, that now have to close at 11PM.... I know a few of them.... NYC may not be dead, but it is not what it was pre-covid.... far from it.
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Old 08-23-2022, 01:04 AM
 
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Covid won't destroy NYC but crime will. Very few educated people who are raised here with families will or are sticking around. There will be no middle class. It's already dwindling. Like I've said, crime in the bad ole days was isolated to certain areas where crack had taken over and, of course, your common midtown manhattan purse snatcher. But in 2022 the reason for crime is different. It's not crack. It's not covid. It's George Floyd and BLM. As long as minority politicians have power in the city, which they do, the NYPD will be handcuffed. Pardon the pun! Just tonight again, in what was once my sleepy neighborhood in outer Queens, two black teens robbed the local 7 11 at gun point and took off in their car. They had the guns in the car because they know they won't get pulled over anymore. They have no fear.

Middle class areas are the ones that will suffer. Not the hood. Also you will no longer have the wealthy from CT, Westchester and Long Island commuting into Manhattan in fear of being robbed or worse.

The city will be comprised of minority neighborhoods in which crime and criminals are tolerated, hipster hoods where white liberals ignore and deny their reality while they also get mugged/robbed or worse, Manhattan elite, and finally 3rd world illegal aliens from central/south america sprinkled all throughout the outer boroughs.

Crime in the 80s was tackled because the demographics of the city DEMANDED IT AT ALL COSTS. Those demographics no longer exist.
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Old 08-23-2022, 02:01 AM
 
Location: NY
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The city will only die when it runs out of your money...................
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Old 08-23-2022, 05:22 AM
 
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NYC is definitely "dead".

The old NYC died after every devastating event or downturn. There have been several outflows of long time NYers and their families from the 5 boroughs since the 70s. This has been well documented as "White flight" but also includes affluent people of color leaving. Most Blacks in NYC today are Caribbean and not Native born for example.

Have you not noticed that the Demographics in terms of long time residents have changed significantly? Now it's either an immigrant from Central America that barely speaks English, their American born kids or some lily White Midwestern hokey person. Not much in-between.So either an affluent White transplant or an impoverished Nicaraguan day laborer. Those are the main new arrivals.

When I was growing up you had more a diversity of individuals from every nationality yet whose parents and sometimes even grandparents had been born in NYC. None of my neighbors today were born or raised in the 5 boroughs. (Many not even from NY/NJ or PA.) I rarely meet or come across a Native NYer unless I go far out in Queens, Long Island, deep in BK or way up in the North Bronx.

The only people willing to be here today are Midwestern transplants, refugees from war torn countries and economic immigrants. I have been Zoom interviewing for jobs and most of my potential co-workers moved to NJ or FL after the main pandemic phase. So even high income people are leaving.

You cannot have a successful city long term with no middle class, but NYC is able to get by due to the constant influx of new suckers willing to put in their lottery ticket for their American dream. But for most Native NYers this is a nightmare.
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Old 08-23-2022, 05:32 AM
 
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You're living in the past. The people that made NYC great have left, and been replaced by professional looters, both in government and in populace. It didn't have to be this way, but progressives ruin every city they touch.
90% of my High School Alma mater have left NY. They are Doctors, Dentists, Lawyers and Engineers etc. Not good.

Most homes I see being sold in Queens are clearly increasingly owned by absentee owners or conglomerates. Not good.

The very social fabric of what made this city unique and successful is largely eroded.
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Old 08-23-2022, 05:36 AM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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90% of my High School Alma mater have left NY. They are Doctors, Dentists, Lawyers and Engineers etc. Not good.

Most homes I see being sold in Queens are clearly increasingly owned by absentee owners or conglomerates. Not good.

The very social fabric of what made this city unique and successful is largely eroded.
Same here. I’ve been splitting cows with friends from high school. All of us live in NJ. Of my close high school friends, one lives in Staten Island. The rest are all gone, some as far as Texas, many in Florida.
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