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Old 06-24-2023, 10:52 AM
 
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You cannot screw them BOTH. There is a winner and a loser.
it’s the landlords of course that lose , this is new york
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Old 06-24-2023, 08:11 PM
 
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You cannot screw them BOTH. There is a winner and a loser.
Yes you can and there isn't a clear "winner" or "loser" here.

RS tenants who already are digging through trash bags on street and otherwise struggling financially got kicked in the rear with at minimum a 3% increase in rent.

LLs OTOH still are not fully seeing their operating costs being covered and thus must find ways to make it work. While large multi-family and or LLs that are huge enterprises owning dozens or more of properties such as Glenwood have ways to deflect any economic hit, smaller LLs are another matter.

You also conveniently forget that RS tenants have eff tons of games they can play regarding rent and still never get evicted.

Paying rent second, third or even fourth week of month for a start. In some instances not paying until first week of next month. Not paying at all until being hauled down to housing court (repeatedly) and so it goes.
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Old 06-25-2023, 12:02 PM
 
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The panel of nine mayoral appointees approved increases of up to 3% on one-year leases and a more complex increase for two-year agreements, with the first year of a lease increasing by 2.75% and the second year’s rent rising by 3.2% of the previous year’s rent.

so the two year is a bit different , as it is compounded on the previous years amount .

mci increases and parking spot charges are extra .many buildings use the parking spots as a profit center as it is uncapped.

still pretty reasonable in the face of current inflation
I wonder why they decided to do it the complicated way for 2 year leases. Mathematically I think it's just 4.4% increase.
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Old 06-25-2023, 12:09 PM
 
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i would prefer it the way they did it since if that money is getting 4 to 6% today you do better this way then averaged out with the higher increase year one ..

compounding always likes the best gains first
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Old 06-26-2023, 07:25 AM
 
Location: NY
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Define "people with money"
How to define people with money?


I believe this covers all the bases.
If you can buy anything you need you are getting by.
If you can buy anything you want you got money.
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Old 06-27-2023, 11:02 AM
 
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it’s the landlords of course that lose , this is new york
When the Lords of the Land lose their properties THEN we will have something to debate.
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Old 06-27-2023, 11:04 AM
 
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or when the tenants cry because there is a shortage of rentals as more and more investors choose not to get involved in rentals in nyc
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Old 06-27-2023, 11:04 AM
 
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How to define people with money?


I believe this covers all the bases.
If you can buy anything you need you are getting by.
If you can buy anything you want you got money.
What if I dont want much
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Old 06-27-2023, 11:08 AM
 
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What if I dont want much
you can buy me what you don’t want
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Old 06-27-2023, 06:19 PM
 
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Look at it this way; in Manhattan below Harlem if not maybe above RS apartments in crappy five to six floor walk-up/elevator and tenement buildings are going for north of $2,100 per month.

These are buildings with some percentage of old RS (lifer) tenants who have below market rents mixed with higher RS units and some free market.

All and all using 40x rent to income ratio you aren't getting even a RS apartment in NYC without a proven household income > $90k if not over $100k.

Does that sort of compensation mean people "have money?", many would answer they don't think so.
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