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Why do all the out of towners feel a need to prove they are not racist? Volunteering in the bronx? Live your life and nobody will bother you. It's nyc not Ohio.
Right? My job is paid, but is so stressful that I am in the process of looking for another job OUTSIDE the Bronx. When the idealism dies and reality sets in, what you see is not so pretty. It is patronizing that so many White folks go out of their way to prove they are not racist. Give it up already.
Its not racism, its guilt for living here. But I actually believe that they have some good intentions. Their guilt will bring help to the community. They feel less guilty and people get help, it might work out. Guilt is a powerful energy, we need to capture it like Wind energy.
I'm from here and I feel guilty just patroning the out of towner places of business.
When you learn of the devistating effects the changes have had on communities over the past 20 years, it takes a toll on the soul.
So if you are going to contrbute to a transition at the expense of others at least volunteer and try to support your local community and respect its elders!
I can't believe I am quoting J-Lo, but she recently told a magzaine "Guilt is a useless feeling". I didn't understand that at first, but I guess this is one of those times where it is best applied.
I can't believe I am quoting J-Lo, but she recently told a magzaine "Guilt is a useless feeling". I didn't understand that at first, but I guess this is one of those times where it is best applied.
Yeah but if people didn't feel guilty they'd be commiting violent acts on one another crazier than they do now.
If people didn't feel guilty, everything would be completely outta control!
No? Well J-Lo, whose married to a junkie singer knows better! Just kidding, but he does look kinda strung out!
Yeah but if people didn't feel guilty they'd be commiting violent acts on one another crazier than they do now.
If people didn't feel guilty, everything would be completely outta control!
No? Well J-Lo, whose married to a junkie singer knows better! Just kidding, but he does look kinda strung out!
Well, no, I mean that feeling guilty about things that you have no control over. I was talking to a neighbor Sunday and he said something that made sense. He said that if people would do the right thing automatically then we wouldn't need laws. If people did the right thing or at least made an effort to do so and 'fessed up when they slipped, we wouldn't need guilt.
But yes, he does look reminiscent of a South Bronx methadone patient.
Volunteering is to help others, not to prove someone is not racist. The Obama Express bandwagon was a venue where people hopped on a feel good story to prove they are not racist.
Someone has to help those in need especially in this rich-poor society we live in today where the corporate wealthy are essentially legalized modern day plantation owners and the poor are no doubt slaves. Donate a winter jacket, buy a homeless guy a meal, motivate the jobless to get off their a**, work a soup kitchen, etc. People donated things during the Depression to our ancestors, why cant we return the favor. This is not socialism we are talking about here.
Realize help will either come on the form of volunteers, or redistribution of wealth + money vacuum socialist organizations funded by the taxpayer. More help will come under the Obama administration. You take your pick. I personally would rather buy a homeless guy a porterhouse steak on my dollar than have the government hand out checks to funded by my tax dollars.
Volunteering decreases the need for welfare. Today's welfare system is a joke that promotes laziness.
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Originally Posted by italian23
Why do all the out of towners feel a need to prove they are not racist? Volunteering in the bronx? Live your life and nobody will bother you. It's nyc not Ohio.
Volunteering decreases the need for welfare. Today's welfare system is a joke that promotes laziness.
People who make statements like that have most likely never needed welfare or have been on it. 34 million people don't live in poverty cause they are lazy. 13 million children don't go to bed hungry cause they are lazy.
It is a much larger problem in our country that has locked people in povert for generations.
Your ideologies are so dated and defunct. They have no substance and suffer from a false conscousness.
Last edited by Joe Bama!; 11-14-2008 at 01:01 PM..
Volunteering is to help others, not to prove someone is not racist. The Obama Express bandwagon was a venue where people hopped on a feel good story to prove they are not racist.
Someone has to help those in need especially in this rich-poor society we live in today where the corporate wealthy are essentially legalized modern day plantation owners and the poor are no doubt slaves. Donate a winter jacket, buy a homeless guy a meal, motivate the jobless to get off their a**, work a soup kitchen, etc. People donated things during the Depression to our ancestors, why cant we return the favor. This is not socialism we are talking about here.
Realize help will either come on the form of volunteers, or redistribution of wealth + money vacuum socialist organizations funded by the taxpayer. More help will come under the Obama administration. You take your pick. I personally would rather buy a homeless guy a porterhouse steak on my dollar than have the government hand out checks to funded by my tax dollars.
Volunteering decreases the need for welfare. Today's welfare system is a joke that promotes laziness.
I wholeheartedly agree. BTW, read the NY Post on Monday (I think it was Monday, maybe Tuesday) reagrding the welfare system, Bloomsberg, and NY?
. I personally would rather buy a homeless guy a porterhouse steak on my dollar than have the government hand out checks to funded by my tax dollars.
Volunteering decreases the need for welfare. Today's welfare system is a joke that promotes laziness.
The problem with that analysis is that it assumes that we're all ready, willing, and predisposed to be volunteers. It's a beautiful, idealistic thought for Sunday afternoon easy reading. On a level that would include both pragmatism and idealism, perhaps we can have both forms of generosity - volunteerism and some taxpayer transfer payments?
And with the tax funded benefits, our friends will most likely not even do porterhouse; most will be happy for a nice soup and a roll while putting the difference toward another pressing need.
People who make statements like that have most likely never needed welfare or have been on it. 34 million people don't live in poverty cause they are lazy. 13 million children don't do to bed hungry cause they are lazy.
Not true. I work with welfare folks. I get complaint on the daily about hating WEP (Work Experience Program, the mandated Welfare-to-Work program for public assistance recipients in NYC), wanting to get off PA, and wanting a job so bad. Don't you know, when I try to set these folks up to write a resume, go to a job counselor, or sign up for a GED/ESL/etc. training to help them get a job, maybe 40% actually make those appts. That's not wanting a job, that's called playing the system. I do budgets with people and financial literacy. Ok, I have clients playing welfare and Section 8, clients who work off the books AND get welfare, food stamps, Section 8, etc., and I have several who have $100 sneakers, Coach and Gucci purses, have cable and internet yet cannot pay their rent or food bill.
Not everyone on welfare is lazy or trying to get over, but I know folks on a personal basis AND work specifically with these types of clients, so I do have alot of experience with them. People on Section 8 and welfare usually aren't on it because they are upwardly mobile scholars, they're on it (usually) because they're single mothers who can't afford the kids they have, who are getting over, sometimes because they are the legal guardians of children (such as grandkids, nieces, and nephews, etc.) whose parents cannot care for them, etc. Some have lost their jobs, but they usually aren't on PA for long. With most folks I see, it's a intergenerational thing (I often see people with children and siblings on Section 8, for example). Food stamps is another story, however. Those people usally are distitute.
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