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Old 01-31-2020, 07:05 AM
 
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A very interesting article I came across in the Utica Observer-Dispatch: https://www.uticaod.com/news/2020013...students-arent

Also, here is some more information in regards to educator data from the NY State Department of Education: http://www.nysed.gov/common/nysed/fi...ember-2019.pdf

NYSED:IRS:Personnel Master File (PMF) (can view more specific demographic information in the last section)

State student demographic information(to the lower right): https://data.nysed.gov/

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Old 01-31-2020, 07:16 AM
 
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If this is an issue, why are the city schools so excited about busing their students to suburban schools where things are less diverse?
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Old 01-31-2020, 07:19 AM
 
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If this is an issue, why are the city schools so excited about busing their students to suburban schools where things are less diverse?
What does that have to do with teacher diversity though?

Also, are city schools "excited" about busing their students to suburban schools or is the program in your area just referring to voluntary school integration via the Urban-Suburban program? For those not familiar with the Rochester area program: https://www.monroe.edu/urbansuburban
https://www.monroe.edu/domain/121
https://www.monroe.edu/Page/942

Keep in mind that not all, if any of the participating suburban schools get all or even most of their "diversity" from this program.

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Old 01-31-2020, 08:01 AM
 
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What does that have to do with teacher diversity though?
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Old 01-31-2020, 08:06 AM
 
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Just what it says. It is pretty straight forward.

People exercising options to attend other schools doesn't necessarily have anything to do with teacher diversity.

If you read the article, even the school districts with substantial to high black and Hispanic student populations don't have teacher percentages of those groups even close to being similar. So, that is where the issue comes into play and is what the article is referring to. For instance, the percentage of non white teachers in the Buffalo and Syracuse SD's are about 14% each, but here are the student demographics: https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000052968

https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000040902
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Old 01-31-2020, 08:09 AM
 
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I noticed that but I also noticed that most of The diversity advocates denouncing income inequality are rich white people living in cloistered communities
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Old 01-31-2020, 08:15 AM
 
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I noticed that but I also noticed that most of The diversity advocates denouncing income inequality are rich white people living in cloistered communities
I see what you are saying, but I don't think the article is delving that deep into the subject.

I think the article is basically showing how this may be a surprise to people, if they don't know this information. Some may just assume that if a school district has substantial to high cultural diversity among its students, that the staff would be similar. This just shows that this isn't necessarily the case. Think of it similar to professional sports leagues in terms of players and staff, as an example.
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Old 01-31-2020, 08:33 AM
 
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I think it's a shame that by school age, the parents haven't groomed their kids to integrate with others. Life will be tough, and they will be loaded with grievances for the rest of their life.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mIiT_VO6Dk
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Old 01-31-2020, 10:12 AM
 
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I may be wrong, but why is it necessary to keep same % of minority teachers as the students? I hear the same about the police force: monority areas need more officers with their background. So now we need segregation again? Why a good white teacher cannot teach black or latino students? Who can explain?
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Old 01-31-2020, 10:19 AM
 
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^I think in the case of this article, it is more of a matter of perhaps exploring more occupational choices for certain groups, exposure to people of the same/similar background in that occupation(or even for those not of the same background) and even recruiting/seeking out a more diverse field of candidates, among other things.

Here is a likely example of the exposure factor of a teacher/coach from Cleveland Hill HS in Cheektowaga, which is one of the most diverse suburban SD’s in Upstate NY and who has likely had a positive impact on a diverse range of students. This article was written by a Utica O-D sports writer that went to HS there: https://www.uticaod.com/sports/20190...rving-of-award

Another article: https://www.cheektowagabee.com/artic...ees-top-coach/

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