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Men die younger, their bodies take all kinds of physical abuse that most women do not realize even happens. It's the man's duty.
Women have it easier in the sense that they do not have to exert themselves physically as hard, that it is acceptable for a woman to pursue comfort and ease and luxury but not so for a man, he is still expected to be strong and hard and not give in to softness and complacency.
But the men get rewards for all this. That is the deal, the men suffer more but get greater rewards. Money, power, status, freedom and independence. The ability to call the shots and be in command. Women trying to break into the world of men have learned that it can be a hard place to be, especially because a lot of men like the current power dynamic and do not like the idea of women sharing in the power.
Men die younger, their bodies take all kinds of physical abuse that most women do not realize even happens. It's the man's duty.
Women have it easier in the sense that they do not have to exert themselves physically as hard, that it is acceptable for a woman to pursue comfort and ease and luxury but not so for a man, he is still expected to be strong and hard and not give in to softness and complacency.
But the men get rewards for all this. That is the deal, the men suffer more but get greater rewards. Money, power, status, freedom and independence. The ability to call the shots and be in command. Women trying to break into the world of men have learned that it can be a hard place to be, especially because a lot of men like the current power dynamic and do not like the idea of women sharing in the power.
What sort of physical abuse are you talking about, that men are enduring, that women are not.
What is luxurious and comfortable about childbirth and pregnancy.
Childbirth sounds pretty rough I will give you that.
The point is men put their bodies on the line all day every day. How many women do you know with deeply callused hands? With bad backs and knees from years of hard labor? With random scars all over their bodies? Men put their bodies in harms way all the time, they work hard jobs, they get in fistfights, the struggle with manual projects, all that adds up. Men are expected to be tough about it and take the abuse, women are allowed to complain over minor injuries and do not suffer the wear and tear on their bodies men do.
Men die younger, their bodies take all kinds of physical abuse that most women do not realize even happens. It's the man's duty.
Women have it easier in the sense that they do not have to exert themselves physically as hard, that it is acceptable for a woman to pursue comfort and ease and luxury but not so for a man, he is still expected to be strong and hard and not give in to softness and complacency.
But the men get rewards for all this. That is the deal, the men suffer more but get greater rewards. Money, power, status, freedom and independence. The ability to call the shots and be in command. Women trying to break into the world of men have learned that it can be a hard place to be, especially because a lot of men like the current power dynamic and do not like the idea of women sharing in the power.
So, how do men suffer?
I'd love some specific points.
Office settings and most jobs (other than specific physical labor or voluntary sports) provide "all kinds of physical abuse that women do not realize even happens."
Really?
You concur that women have it harder getting into the business world, and that it's all about men being unwilling to relinquish power and control.
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Originally Posted by 1208
Childbirth sounds pretty rough I will give you that.
The point is men put their bodies on the line all day every day. How many women do you know with deeply callused hands? With bad backs and knees from years of hard labor? With random scars all over their bodies? Men put their bodies in harms way all the time, they work hard jobs, they get in fistfights, the struggle with manual projects, all that adds up. Men are expected to be tough about it and take the abuse, women are allowed to complain over minor injuries and do not suffer the wear and tear on their bodies men do.
BS, most of this is chosen.
Fights? Sounds like a personal problem.
All men are NOT hard laborers.
Women just sit around eating bon-bons with their feet up.
We don't do anything else.
Yes, I so thoroughly understand your viewpoint.
And I absolutely disagree.
I would never say that one sex has it easier than the other. Men and women each have challenges in different areas of their lives. Some things may be easier for one than the other, but will be outweighted in another area.
I would only go so far as to say nobody has it easy, and everyone has unique problems and challenges to face and overcome.
Childbirth sounds pretty rough I will give you that.
The point is men put their bodies on the line all day every day. How many women do you know with deeply callused hands? With bad backs and knees from years of hard labor? With random scars all over their bodies? Men put their bodies in harms way all the time, they work hard jobs, they get in fistfights, the struggle with manual projects, all that adds up. Men are expected to be tough about it and take the abuse, women are allowed to complain over minor injuries and do not suffer the wear and tear on their bodies men do.
Some men may choose to work hard physical labor jobs, choose to get into physical fights, and choose to engage in manual projects but that's a choice, not a requirement for being a man or living a fulfilling life.
Men can pay someone to install new insulation, build a shed, etc. It's a bit trickier to pay someone to have a baby for you.
Overall, though, I'm undecided as to who has it easier. I think the guy who said women have it easier until their mid twenties is most correct.
I would never say that one sex has it easier than the other. Men and women each have challenges in different areas of their lives. Some things may be easier for one than the other, but will be outweighted in another area.
I would only go so far as to say nobody has it easy, and everyone has unique problems and challenges to face and overcome.
While both men and women have an equal chance of being robbed in my opinion the greater threat of sexual assault is minimal for a man. In this regard men have a huge advantage. However, men have it much harder in relationships and dating in my opinion. Men pay a much higher price in divorce if the relationship doesn't pan out.
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According to the U.S. Census Bureau, the median income of full-time, year-around (FTYR) workers was $47,127 for men, compared to $36,278 for women in 2009. The female-to-male earnings ratio was 0.77, no different statistically from the previous year. The female-to-male earnings ratio of 0.77 means that, in 2009, female FTYR workers earned 23% less than male FTYR workers.
This does not prove that women are paid less for the same job. The difference in income is attributable to the fact that women overwhelmingly choose professions that pay less such as social work. I know several women in Engineering who are making just as much, if not more, than their male colleagues.
In addition, women are more likely to take unpaid time off for things such as maternity which also brings the averages down.
The disparity in income for equal work contribution is a myth.
All the women on here who are saying women have it harder are obviously women who are on their own...either single or with kids.
The "Dunwoody housewife" (ATL) or "Bellevue housewife" (SEA) has it easier than ANYONE on the planet. (Even Ann Coulter says so, though she doesn't use such specific monikers.) She is presumably married to a professional with a good job and has a nice house. She may have a couple of healthy kids cut from the same cloth as her and her husband (no Down Syndrome, no autism, no ADHD), and her biggest worries are her nail appointments, what's at the mall, the PTA, some possible entertaining for her husband's colleagues, and, maybe, just maybe, what she has to cook (unless she does take out or has an au-pair/maid).
There is NO male equivalent of what I just described. Spare me.
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