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Old 06-22-2013, 02:41 PM
 
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No way, Oleg brother not at fault love can blind people to people's faults that seem obvious to others. To me a man who sticks with a **** women he doesn't like or love to keep the family together for the kids to have a stable home is to be commended not bust down. Had Oleg's brother walked away you'd hear about dead beat dad this and no good father that. It seems men are in a lose lose. If you leave a gold digging bad woman and remarry a younger won o he just wants ***** and doesn't care about his family. If he sticks with the bad woman then its his fault for not dumping her, no matter what its his fault and he is the bad guy. Also women and men who are crazy too, often purposely HIDE their evil characteristics from their partners until its too late. Some men like hugh hefner know they are likely being gold digged and that fine because they know. But other men who are not really all that rich have no reason to believe they are being gold digged.
Its like scar face their needs to be a bad guy and its always men.


The Bad Guy Speech (Scarface) - YouTube
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Old 06-22-2013, 02:43 PM
 
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Why exactly would money make it worth dating some man three times your age and having to screw him, entertain him and likely take care of him later unless you're planning on running off with his money or something?
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Old 06-22-2013, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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No way, Oleg brother not at fault love can blind people to people's faults that seem obvious to others. To me a man who sticks with a **** women he doesn't like or love to keep the family together for the kids to have a stable home is to be commended not bust down. Had Oleg's brother walked away you'd hear about dead beat dad this and no good father that. It seems men are in a lose lose. If you leave a gold digging bad woman and remarry a younger won o he just wants ***** and doesn't care about his family. If he sticks with the bad woman then its his fault for not dumping her, no matter what its his fault and he is the bad guy. Also women and men who are crazy too, often purposely HIDE their evil characteristics from their partners until its too late. Some men like hugh hefner know they are likely being gold digged and that fine because they know. But other men who are not really all that rich have no reason to believe they are being gold digged.
Its like scar face their needs to be a bad guy and its always men.


The Bad Guy Speech (Scarface) - YouTube
My brother has one defect...........He is governed by pleasure. He likes to take a drink--------and was motivate strictly by sex- His penis...The woman understood this weakness and she literally lead him around by his penis. It's that simple. Yes they did paint him as the bad guy and the system ruined his reputation and his monetary security...NOW after all the damage is done...the "experts" feel like fools....Finally they figure out that it was the WOMAN who was the bad guy...Progressive liberals always go after the guy and treat the female as if she is a victim...This woman was a huntress...a -predator - and my dumb brother never had a clue---He thought he was in control ...apparently he was not.
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Old 06-22-2013, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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No way, Oleg brother not at fault love can blind people to people's faults that seem obvious to others. To me a man who sticks with a **** women he doesn't like or love to keep the family together for the kids to have a stable home is to be commended not bust down. Had Oleg's brother walked away you'd hear about dead beat dad this and no good father that. It seems men are in a lose lose. If you leave a gold digging bad woman and remarry a younger won o he just wants ***** and doesn't care about his family. If he sticks with the bad woman then its his fault for not dumping her, no matter what its his fault and he is the bad guy. Also women and men who are crazy too, often purposely HIDE their evil characteristics from their partners until its too late. Some men like hugh hefner know they are likely being gold digged and that fine because they know. But other men who are not really all that rich have no reason to believe they are being gold digged.
Its like scar face their needs to be a bad guy and its always men.


The Bad Guy Speech (Scarface) - YouTube
Great speech - thanks....oddly when we were dealing with the courts - we sued an agency who the mother had used to screw my brother- We fought for five years all the way to the Supreme Court..We embarrassed them..We had one rule - Never lie- always stick to reality- The more pressure we put on them the MORE they would lie to save face ---- In the end we lost...of course because there was a policy in place...The final ruling read..............."A father does not have the right to know" That was it in a nut shell...after that I figured out who the real bad guys were...and totally lost respect for our system of domestic justice.
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Old 06-22-2013, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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This is hard to admit, but I want to get some opinions here. So I am a female college student in my early-mid 20's, and recently joined a few "sugar daddy" dating sites as well as millionaire match. Basically the sites connect older, "wealthy" or established men with young, attractive women. Not saying I look like a model by any means but have been told I am "very pretty" on many occasions, am very slim and keep active, am relatively well-traveled, AND am comfortable in many social settings and a good listener.. Meanwhile, a lot of the men that have been messaging me(only met 1, scum of the earth) are significantly overweight, bald or balding, old (as in some could be my grandfather) yet seem to expect a physically intimate relationship often on the first meet (which ive specified in my profile that i NEVER DO) without offering me anything monetarily or material wise besides MAYBE a dinner at (hang on to your hats) Subway. Don’t get me wrong, I like a five dollar foot long as much as the next person but I was hoping for something a little classier…Quiznos perhaps, lol. Is it just me or does anyone else find this strange for a first meeting? Also, I know this post makes me sound like an escort which is not my intention at all, BUT, the point of the particular site I joined called "seeking arrangement", is that companionship (depending where that leads) in exchange for a monthly allowance or gifts (shopping, travel, fine dining,etc). I told a few male-friends about this and they said I'm turning in to a 'gold digger' and one even lead to a falling out(hopefully just temporary) because he thinks I'm superficial.

So to sum it up, and I know im going to get tons of crap for this, but needless to say if an overweight, physically undesirable older man wants the company, companionship and perhaps physical component of a relationship with an attractive young woman, am I not being fair in expecting something in return either in the form of gifts (nice shopping trips, vacation,etc) or some type of allowance (could happily be a college tuition bill, a couple text books, WHATEVER). My thoughts are if an older unattractive man(often married btw) wants access to a younger woman and is demanding of her time and often her body, she should be getting something out of it too since I am doing him a FAVOR. Now if the guy is physically attractive and we both are 'in to each other' different story.

Honestly What are your thoughts?
As you have found, those websites are trash. Nanette Johnston found her generous and doting multi-millionaire via a personal ad but she is now in jail for murdering him, so I wouldn't recommend following in her footsteps. The smartest way to connect with wealthy men is to hang out where they hang out.

However, I will warn you, the woman who marries (or has an "arrangement") for money WORKS HARD for her money every single day. This is not the easy gig that it appears to be!
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Old 06-22-2013, 08:41 PM
 
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Great speech - thanks....oddly when we were dealing with the courts - we sued an agency who the mother had used to screw my brother- We fought for five years all the way to the Supreme Court..We embarrassed them..We had one rule - Never lie- always stick to reality- The more pressure we put on them the MORE they would lie to save face ---- In the end we lost...of course because there was a policy in place...The final ruling read..............."A father does not have the right to know" That was it in a nut shell...after that I figured out who the real bad guys were...and totally lost respect for our system of domestic justice.
An agency? Adoption. I am sorry I have no clue what you are in refernce to. I do agree with the justice part, I have also had a decision from a bias entity go against me where the other side just lied and paid the decider of fact money. Sometimes I think people who hear cases make up their mind before they even see your face.
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Old 06-22-2013, 11:24 PM
 
Location: The beautiful Garden State
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This is hard to admit, but I want to get some opinions here. So I am a female college student in my early-mid 20's, and recently joined a few "sugar daddy" dating sites as well as millionaire match. Basically the sites connect older, "wealthy" or established men with young, attractive women. Not saying I look like a model by any means but have been told I am "very pretty" on many occasions, am very slim and keep active, am relatively well-traveled, AND am comfortable in many social settings and a good listener.. Meanwhile, a lot of the men that have been messaging me(only met 1, scum of the earth) are significantly overweight, bald or balding, old (as in some could be my grandfather) yet seem to expect a physically intimate relationship often on the first meet (which ive specified in my profile that i NEVER DO) without offering me anything monetarily or material wise besides MAYBE a dinner at (hang on to your hats) Subway. Don’t get me wrong, I like a five dollar foot long as much as the next person but I was hoping for something a little classier…Quiznos perhaps, lol. Is it just me or does anyone else find this strange for a first meeting? Also, I know this post makes me sound like an escort which is not my intention at all, BUT, the point of the particular site I joined called "seeking arrangement", is that companionship (depending where that leads) in exchange for a monthly allowance or gifts (shopping, travel, fine dining,etc). I told a few male-friends about this and they said I'm turning in to a 'gold digger' and one even lead to a falling out(hopefully just temporary) because he thinks I'm superficial.
Couldn't help but giggle at that.
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Old 06-23-2013, 08:38 AM
 
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I guess I don't understand why you would be upset that you only got Subway, when you had no intention of putting out.

I don't condemn a sugar daddy/baby relationship, not at all. It is probably safer and more secure than a regular escort for hire. But you are most certainly going to need to have sex with him.

It sounds like you need a better way of finding wealthy older men, to honestly assess your attractiveness, and to be honest with yourself: the "companionship" is just to help with the illusion that the sex is meaningful or passionate. The sex on demand with a youthful woman is the main attraction.
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Old 06-23-2013, 04:49 PM
 
Location: The beautiful Garden State
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OP, you seem to expect the "Pretty Woman" scenario but don't forget what happened to Vicki Morgan. She was a "professional mistress" too, because she would do the "kinky" things his wife didn't want to do, and I do believe that she and Alfred Bloomingdale cared for each other.

But there was a tragic end:

Vicki Morgan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

3. Sex, Murder & Videotapes

Remembering Vicki Morgan - Laura Wilkerson - Open Salon
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Old 06-23-2013, 07:03 PM
 
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Couldn't help but giggle at that.
Yeah I mean if I were the man and I wasn't gonna get any, I wouldn't be so generous as to give the $5 footlong! She'd only get the 6 incher with no chips on the side from me
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