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I think the same thing listening to Americans......... 'Telly' isn't silly....... that's what we call them - 'turn't telly on.....Coronation Street starts in five minutes'.........
Yes, it's those silly baby words you Brits use that makes us snicker. Telly for TV, brolly for umbrella, cuppa for tea.
We love you anyway, and hey, if not for my ancestors crossing the pond in 1863, I'd sound that way, too.
Gee, Dave --- You said in post #458 that you were going camping and wouldn't be coming back anytime soon to this thread. Changed your mind about going camping?
Look, Dave. You claim that you understand that Americans have a different view as to what constitutes humor. Yet, instead of respecting that, you just keep at it. If I were posting in a thread that came from the UK and found out that my phrasing was offensive, I would respect that and make changes.
No, I've never had any server hover over me like that because we do tip when we receive good service. If the service wasn't great, we tip less. If it was abysmal (which is extremely rare), we don't tip---and I can count the number of times that happened on one hand and still have fingers left over.
Where have you had drinks while sitting at a bar and it wasn't the bartender who brought them to you after making them? I ask because I've never seen such a set up.
ETA: I've heard many of your fellow countrymen/women say that when, once seated in a restaurant, tell the server that they do know to tip. Have you tried doing that?
I can't find my hiking boots, and it looks like rain.......
We have Americans who come to the UK thread who are offensive. We don't mind because we can take it, as well as dish it.
They wouldn't need to hover if the owner paid their wages.
My drinking in American bars is limited. We do a lot of drinking in casinos where we tip the nice ladies who bring them to the blackjack table. You'd be amazed how many Americans don't tip them. Especially the older lady servers.
I have drank with American friends in a bar, where we went and asked for beers which the guy took the caps off. A tab was kept, and we paid up at the end. I asked my friend how much the bill was for us to split it. He said so much plus tip, so I paid my share. After we left the bar, I asked him "why do we tip the guy for taking caps off bottles? Isn't he paid a wage to do that?" He shrugged his shoulders, and said, "I guess so, but a tip is expected........" I still don't understand it. His wife said, "it's stupid I know..... but it's just the way it is." Doesn't make it right though.
You think I'm going to sit down in a restaurant, and say to the waitress, "don't hover round me all night. I know the tipping rules?" Sorry, I'm not going to do that.
The atmosphere is very different when we have eaten out with American friends. The server is relaxed, and I can relax also. I still don't like them mithering me to death though........ 'Everything all right here?'
If it's not, I'll tell ya........ leave me alone!!.........
Yes, it's those silly baby words you Brits use that makes us snicker. Telly for TV, brolly for umbrella, cuppa for tea.
We love you anyway, and hey, if not for my ancestors crossing the pond in 1863, I'd sound that way, too.
Here's another one for you - leccy for electric.......'Oh no, the leccy bill's arrived......'.......
We are very lovable, and I understand you feeling that way......... We are very loyal friends, and we stick by America through thick and thin.
Well, we didn't go to Vietnam with you, but that wasn't our fault. We had a stupid socialist Prime Minister at the time, and he wouldn't let us go. We don't like missing out on wars.........
I simply don't understand how they keep talking so funny all the time. It takes such an effort to keep that accent up, doesn't it?
Plus you have to remember the silly-sounding words like "telly" and "tickety-boo".
Last time I heard "tickety-boo", was in a black and white British WW2 movie.
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Why? Because you know you're dealing with someone from the real world?
Thin ice David, thin ice!
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I think the same thing listening to Americans......... 'Telly' isn't silly....... that's what we call them - 'turn't telly on.....Coronation Street starts in five minutes'.........
With the absolute best will in the world Dave, telly may be a word that you use, hell, it's used quite a bit down here too, but not in my house, I don't like it, neither of my kids use it, nor their kids.
It grates on me so much, that if my brother-in-law's grandkids come round, I tell them, "It's T.V. or television, or it doesn't go on."
Yeah, I know, I'm weird, that's what my nieces and nephews say.
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Here's another one for you - leccy for electric.......'Oh no, the leccy bill's arrived......'.......
We are very lovable, and I understand you feeling that way......... We are very loyal friends, and we stick by America through thick and thin.
Well, we didn't go to Vietnam with you, but that wasn't our fault. We had a stupid socialist Prime Minister at the time, and he wouldn't let us go. We don't like missing out on wars.........
You'll never hear "leccy" down here, it's more of a northern thing I think, I used to work with a lot of Scousers, (that's people from Liverpool for our U.S. friends), they said it a lot, nothing wrong with Northerners, salt of the earth, if only they'd learn the language!
Oh, and as for Vietnam, sure, we didn't go, but our cousins from Australia and New Zealand helped out, and my great-uncle Guillaume was wounded at Dien-Bien-Phu, in French Indo-China, does that count?
Hiya BOS....... I ask the same questions, because I never get an honest answer. Fast food workers DO get abuse, and sneered at in threads on the subject. "Get back to school, then get a REAL job." I've seen plenty of such posts on the subject. Yet, when servers are discussed, we get the "oh they work so hard, running round dealing with awkward customers. THEN some of these SOBs stiff them." It is a ridiculous argument.
I don't start these tipping threads. Not one. But I see the same thing posted again and again. Why shouldn't I do the same? There IS resentment among citizens feeling they have their arms up their back concerning tips. Many DO feel it's the owners job to pay the staff, not them.
Some folks here don't just accept the tipping system, they praise it, and try to justify it. Many customers treat their servers like serfs at their command. You know it's true. Better hop to it if you want a tip!! Sure the system is what it is, but that doesn't make it right.
The amount of threads started on this subject prove what I say is true. I don't mock servers....... it's just my English sarcasm.......... I see something that is ridiculous, and I mock it, not the poor worker trying to earn an honest buck. You seem to feel because your daughter was a server, then she earned every cent given her in tips. Why do you think she deserves more than the poor sod running round backstage in McDonald's? Because she puts the food in front of the patron with a big smile? Well, I eat out in England, and I get the big smile. At least I know it's genuine, and not just to get tips.
Honest, I don't want to offend anybody, and if it comes over that way, if you actually spoke to me you would see a lot is said with a smile. Sometimes the written word looks worse than the intent. The ordinary worker is being ground down all over the world. Here in England, we aren't spared this. Folks working for peanuts....... zero hour contracts. But, I don't understand why servers are singled out as something special. They are just workers like everybody else. That is a fact, and they should be paid like most everybody else - by their employer. Then all the pain they talk about dealing with the tax man, and being stiffed would end wouldn't it?
And why is that? Because some simpering, mithering Limey says so? (Hah! Two can play your game.) No, as much as you may dislike the system, those involved - meaning owners, servers and customers prefer that system. Americans, workers and diners alike, have consistently voted with their feet when given the choice of a gratuity-included protocol over the customary (but possibly anachronistic) system of tipping. It is that simple - tipping is what Americans want just as you insist on dousing your fries or chips with vinegar.
And why is that? Because some simpering, mithering Limey says so? (Hah! Two can play your game.) No, as much as you may dislike the system, those involved - meaning owners, servers and customers prefer that system. Americans, workers and diners alike, have consistently voted with their feet when given the choice of a gratuity-included protocol over the customary (but possibly anachronistic) system of tipping. It is that simple - tipping is what Americans want just as you insist on dousing your fries or chips with vinegar.
You can't call the things you Yanks eat chips! They're skinny little things that won't survive a good dose of vinegar!! Plus some Daddy's sauce of course!!
I don't simper!!...............
You give decent food in a good restaurant, at reasonable price. Then put a big sign in the window, NO TIPPING REQUIRED, you'd pack the place out. You might struggle getting servers though....... they don't want to work for a reasonable wage, they want tips to put their kids through college, and buy them a nice car.
You want to insult - I'm your man......... We English don't crawl into a safe space with a trembling bottom lip.
Last time I heard "tickety-boo", was in a black and white British WW2 movie.
Thin ice David, thin ice!
With the absolute best will in the world Dave, telly may be a word that you use, hell, it's used quite a bit down here too, but not in my house, I don't like it, neither of my kids use it, nor their kids.
It grates on me so much, that if my brother-in-law's grandkids come round, I tell them, "It's T.V. or television, or it doesn't go on."
Yeah, I know, I'm weird, that's what my nieces and nephews say.
You'll never hear "leccy" down here, it's more of a northern thing I think, I used to work with a lot of Scousers, (that's people from Liverpool for our U.S. friends), they said it a lot, nothing wrong with Northerners, salt of the earth, if only they'd learn the language!
Oh, and as for Vietnam, sure, we didn't go, but our cousins from Australia and New Zealand helped out, and my great-uncle Guillaume was wounded at Dien-Bien-Phu, in French Indo-China, does that count?
Same here with tickety-boo. I think it was something Terry-Thomas said in a movie. Never heard it in real life.
I know I'm on thin ice. I'm trying to be reasonable here Jean-Francois........
You don't allow the word telly in your house. You one of those leafy Londoners?........
I never use the word 'leccy' either. I think it's a Scouse thing as you say.
This thread has come back to life from the dead. I am to blame. It could have rested in peace until a new one started..........
You can't call the things you Yanks eat chips! They're skinny little things that won't survive a good dose of vinegar!! Plus some Daddy's sauce of course!!
I don't simper!!...............
You give decent food in a good restaurant, at reasonable price. Then put a big sign in the window, NO TIPPING REQUIRED, you'd pack the place out. You might struggle getting servers though....... they don't want to work for a reasonable wage, they want tips to put their kids through college, and buy them a nice car.
You want to insult - I'm your man......... We English don't crawl into a safe space with a trembling bottom lip.
Sorry, Dave, this bird just won't fly - you could look it up! Time after time chains and independent restaurants have made big publicity splashes while announcing they were going to non-tipping policies while raising their prices and time after time in a few months they abandon that policy returning to the standard tipping protocol citing lost customers and lost workers. This has been true throughout the pricing spectrum.
Same here with tickety-boo. I think it was something Terry-Thomas said in a movie. Never heard it in real life.
I know I'm on thin ice. I'm trying to be reasonable here Jean-Francois........
You don't allow the word telly in your house. You one of those leafy Londoners?........
I never use the word 'leccy' either. I think it's a Scouse thing as you say.
This thread has come back to life from the dead. I am to blame. It could have rested in peace until a new one started..........
Terry-Thomas! I wonder what our friends across the pond would think if they listened to him speak, or should I say verbalise, maybe even verbalize, probably lecherous dirty old British aristocrat. :rolleyes
As for thin ice, it's patently obvious that you love it, you're in your element winding up those lovely Americans.
I think that the adjective leafy in London, refers to places like Hampstead, or Holland Park.
I'm right on the Thames at Rotherhithe, some 900-950 metres from Tower Bridge, but Southwark Park is just across the street.
Now that they know what a Scouse is, someone tell 'em that a Yorkie isn't just a little dog, a Jock is not necessarily a sports enthusiast, and that Taffy isn't just candy.
Keep breathing life in the thread Dave, but don't upset the Americans too much, I love 'em!
Sorry, Dave, this bird just won't fly - you could look it up! Time after time chains and independent restaurants have made big publicity splashes while announcing they were going to non-tipping policies while raising their prices and time after time in a few months they abandon that policy returning to the standard tipping protocol citing lost customers and lost workers. This has been true throughout the pricing spectrum.
Well, the only reason I can think this would happen, would because the staff wouldn't hop to it stroking customers ego...........
The customers would try ordering the servers about, and they wouldn't jump as high as instructed. I guess you got this kind of waitress..........
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'Telly' isn't silly....... that's what we call them - 'turn't telly on.....Coronation Street starts in five minutes'.........
Gee, Dave --- You said in post #458 that you were going camping and wouldn't be coming back anytime soon to this thread. Changed your mind about going camping?
We are very loyal friends, and we stick by America through thick and thin.
