Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Virginia is significantly different than SC, as measured in income, educational attainment, religious beliefs, ethnic demographics, urbanity, and political and cultural beliefs. NC truly is a mix of SC and VA.
Virginia is significantly different than SC, as measured in income, educational attainment, religious beliefs, ethnic demographics, urbanity, and political and cultural beliefs. NC truly is a mix of SC and VA.
Yeah SC has nothing remotely comparable to NOVA within its borders which is what it all boils down to by and large. But SC's largest metropolitan areas anchored by cities within the state are doing relatively well for themselves.
Virginia is significantly different than SC, as measured in income, educational attainment, religious beliefs, ethnic demographics, urbanity, and political and cultural beliefs. NC truly is a mix of SC and VA.
Luray, Norton, and Wise? Come ride along with a career trucker and I'll show you the real Virginia outside of Metro DC...
But the big difference between North Carolina and Virginia is that Virginia’s population is disproportionately clumped into three metropolitan areas. Outside of those three metros, Virginia has a lot of essentially unpopulated or scant population areas. In contrast, North Carolina’s three metropolitan areas don’t dominate the state’s overall population the way VA’s big three do for that state. North Carolina has relatively few areas that are unpopulated or have very few people. It’s a state with a good-size town every 20 to 30 miles throughout the entirety of the state.
According to the U.S. Census Bureau, in 2020, 66.1 percent of North Carolinians lived in urban areas. For SC, it was 66.3 percent. Virgina: 75.5 percent; Maryland: 87.2 percent.
According to the U.S. Census Bureau, in 2020, 66.1 percent of North Carolinians lived in urban areas. For SC, it was 66.3 percent. Virgina: 75.5 percent; Maryland: 87.2 percent.
I think we're saying the same thing, but in a different way. Your numbers above illustrates how much 3 major metros can influence an extremely rural state. If the two Virginias (YES West Virginia) were combined, the urban percentage would be almost identical to the Carolinas. DC is an out-of-state influence that would have the same exact effect on NC and SC's urban percentages.
I think we're saying the same thing, but in a different way. Your numbers above illustrates how much 3 major metros can influence an extremely rural state. If the two Virginias (YES West Virginia) were combined, the urban percentage would be almost identical to the Carolinas. DC is an out-of-state influence that would have the same exact effect on NC and SC's urban percentages.
Washington/Baltimore would have a huge effect on NC/SC probably pushing SC to the wealthiest state if it was the MD suburbs and NC following closely if it had the VA suburbs in lieu of the 3 largest regions (Charlotte/Triad/Triangle) and pushing the two states to among the highest in education.
It isn’t just the population of Washington/Baltimore, it’s the nations capital and a very educated area. Atlanta is located completely inside Atlanta and GA is well below MD/VA in wealth, education, etc. Washington MSA has way more people with degrees than Dallas and Dallas has over 1 milllion more people than Washington - and that’s excluding the Baltimore portion.
If Washington DC can skew Baltimore’s MSA, Virginia & Maryland’s demographics so much, imagine the rest of VA without a few suburban DC counties.
Virginia minus a couple NoVa counties is much less like NC than SC IMO. That’s not a rah rah DC post. I just think Virginia is overhyped compared to North Carolina. If You could minis DC suburbs and just increase the population of Richmond, Norfolk, Charlottesville etc to make up for that population difference. The demographics of Virginia would look way different. I don’t like the narrative of VA being so progressive and “not really southern” (cuz they ain’t stupid like NC & GA - only southerners are dumb). That’s just how it comes across. Especially thread after thread “is VA really southern. VA is the new south. Will NC become the next VA”.
Last edited by Charlotte485; 03-10-2022 at 06:48 PM..
Without NOVA, Virginia is still wealthier than NC. NC’s wealthiest county (based on median income) would be Virginia’s 19th. Of those 19, 6 are located outside of Northern Virginia. So subtracting NOVA (because unlike every other state it’s always demanded that VA shed its most
prosperous and educated metro) Virginia is still wealthier than NC.
Virginia is more educated across the entire commonwealth too. If you exclude NOVA (ludicrous) Virginia is still a more educated state.
Without NOVA, Virginia is still wealthier than NC. NC’s wealthiest county (based on median income) would be Virginia’s 19th. Of those 19, 6 are located outside of Northern Virginia. So subtracting NOVA (because unlike every other state it’s always demanded that VA shed its most
prosperous and educated metro) Virginia is still wealthier than NC.
Virginia is more educated across the entire commonwealth too. If you exclude NOVA (ludicrous) Virginia is still a more educated state.
Virginia has independent cities that don't belong to counties. It's not an apples to apples comparison.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
