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Old 02-15-2013, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Sadly, North Carolina is turning into a liberal hell hole slowly year by year.

When you elect the worst president of the modern era in Obama, thats just pathetic.
If the economy goes good, I can't see the GOP winning NC the next go round.
Romney won NC on the coat tails of McCrory.
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Old 02-15-2013, 06:48 PM
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Location: The Sand Hills of NC
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Sadly, North Carolina is turning into a liberal hell hole slowly year by year.

When you elect the worst president of the modern era in Obama, thats just pathetic.
Thanks for that post, I had a vacant spot on my ignore list and you will fill that vacancy nicely.
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Old 02-15-2013, 06:54 PM
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Location: The Sand Hills of NC
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If the economy goes good, I can't see the GOP winning NC the next go round.
Romney won NC on the coat tails of McCrory.
Republican politicians are pretty smart in the bible belt states. Education is not a top priority for them and as long as you an keep you base stupid you never have to worry about those smart ass Liberals getting elected.
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Old 02-16-2013, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Lake Norman Area
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Sadly, North Carolina is turning into a liberal hell hole slowly year by year.

When you elect the worst president of the modern era in Obama, thats just pathetic.
I dont think NC will elect a Democrat President again anytime soon.

The Republican Presidential candidate increased his victory margin over Obama from 2008 to 2012.

2008 was not the first time a Democrat came close to winning NC....in 1996 Clinton came close to winning NC as Dole only beat Clinton here by 5 points....but just 4 years later Bush beat Gore by 13 points in NC and in 2004 Bush beat Kerry by 12-13 points.

Many Southern states that traditionally have voted Republican have voted Democrat or came very close to doing so in the past several elections, but eventually go back to Republican voting.
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Old 02-16-2013, 11:35 AM
 
Location: The Triad
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I don't think NC (natives) will elect a Democrat President again anytime soon.
Enough will. And with the ever increasing number of transplants... it's changing.

The question is how long it'll take for the dixiecrat effect to wear off on the successive
generations of native southerners. Still, most of the final decision will still be about their
pocketbook (as it is for most everywhere) balanced against where they get information.

But if Pat and the boys keep it up the way they've been doing so far?
There just might be a Dem revolution coming... and even before the midterms.
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Old 02-16-2013, 02:13 PM
 
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I dont think NC will elect a Democrat President again anytime soon.

The Republican Presidential candidate increased his victory margin over Obama from 2008 to 2012.

2008 was not the first time a Democrat came close to winning NC....in 1996 Clinton came close to winning NC as Dole only beat Clinton here by 5 points....but just 4 years later Bush beat Gore by 13 points in NC and in 2004 Bush beat Kerry by 12-13 points.

Many Southern states that traditionally have voted Republican have voted Democrat or came very close to doing so in the past several elections, but eventually go back to Republican voting.
true and this includes registered democrats who may vote locally democratic and see themselves as democrats but do not agree with the National Democratic party ideology.

Still a few yellow dog democrats left, but many have moved over to blue dog country.
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Old 02-16-2013, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Lake Norman Area
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Enough will. And with the ever increasing number of transplants... it's changing.

The question is how long it'll take for the dixiecrat effect to wear off on the successive
generations of native southerners. Still, most of the final decision will still be about their
pocketbook (as it is for most everywhere) balanced against where they get information.

But if Pat and the boys keep it up the way they've been doing so far?
There just might be a Dem revolution coming... and even before the midterms.
NC has seen influx of transplants ever since the 70s. Not all transplants to NC are liberals, in fact I would say either 50/50 with Republican edge as evidenced in the past several elections. In order to tip NC to lean Democrat, there would need to be an overwhelming influx of pure liberal voters over the years.

As far as native NCers, the Southern Democrat "dixiecrat" is the older generation that has remained largely Democrat. My grandparents who were loyal Southern Democrats have remained so and continue to vote Democrat. My parents and those my age mostly vote Republican. For the next generation, how they will vote is anyones guess.

With the ever changing economy, NC may or may not remain one of the most desirable places to move to in the coming years.

As far as state government, Republicans will remain in control of House and Senate for the foreseeable future due to redistricting. (which has been pointed out several times the Democrats did same thing for a century).
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Old 02-16-2013, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Lake Norman Area
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Look at the 2012 NC election for President county by county. The counties along the SC border which are rather poor and rural vote consistently for Democrat. Not much population there to swing an election. There are only 2 counties in central and western NC that voted majority Democrat, Mecklenburg and Buncombe. Mecklenburg (Charlotte metro) is heavily Democrat with Republican suburbs.

The other Democrat areas are the northeast part of the state, also mostly rural. Wake county is the only heavily populated county.

So Wake and Mecklenburg are basically the only two areas of the state that make NC competitive for Democrats (nationally) at all. NC is mostly a conservative/Republican state with two areas of the state that make NC appear to be 50/50.
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Old 02-16-2013, 03:43 PM
 
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Look at the 2012 NC election for President county by county. The counties along the SC border which are rather poor and rural vote consistently for Democrat. Not much population there to swing an election. There are only 2 counties in central and western NC that voted majority Democrat, Mecklenburg and Buncombe. Mecklenburg (Charlotte metro) is heavily Democrat with Republican suburbs.

The other Democrat areas are the northeast part of the state, also mostly rural. Wake county is the only heavily populated county.

So Wake and Mecklenburg are basically the only two areas of the state that make NC competitive for Democrats (nationally) at all. NC is mostly a conservative/Republican state with two areas of the state that make NC appear to be 50/50.
Romney only won the state by 90,000 votes. That's nothing. All of the most populous counties in the state went for the Democratic presidential candidate - Meck, Wake, Orange, Durham, Forsyth, Guilford, Buncombe and Cumberland. Pretty much every county with a city of any size except for New Hanover (Wilmington).
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Old 02-16-2013, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Lake Norman Area
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Romney only won the state by 90,000 votes. That's nothing. All of the most populous counties in the state went for the Democratic presidential candidate - Meck, Wake, Orange, Durham, Forsyth, Guilford, Buncombe and Cumberland. Pretty much every county with a city of any size except for New Hanover (Wilmington).
Yeah and Obama won NC in 2008 by less than 14,000 votes.....Romney (supposedly not a popular candidate) won NC in 2012 by 100,000 votes, which is an increase by about 115,000 in Republican switch.

As I posted above, NC in 1996 had a similar result with Dole winning NC by only 100,000 votes or so, but Bush winning NC handily just 4 years later.
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