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So if a transgendered or even a gay athlete, coach, or staff member of a university from out of state comes to participate in an event, it is not a given that they would be admitted everywhere. The arena, stadium, even a restaurant. Imagine an assistant coach of a soccer team not being admitted because someone discriminated against them because they were gay. The team would have to play without an important part of their make up. There is no recourse, none. No lawsuit allowed.
This is why these events are being moved out of the state. Open your eyes folks....
Can you cite any instances of this happening to athletes, coaches, or staff visiting NC? Perhaps in Charlotte, Raleigh, Cary, Durham, or Greensboro (I think that these are the venues actually of interest at the moment)?
Could be that the question of murder might be more relevant when teams visit places like Chicago or Baltimore, yet the NCAA et al have little or nothing to say about this, at least as far as I know.
It's certainly relevant if there is a possibility that LGBT athletes, employees, fans, and media would not have legal recourse in a jurisdiction if subjected to discrimination. Further, it makes the venue unwelcoming to LGBT people and their families and friends. There are so many places that LGBT protective laws and climates, why even consider a place that does not?
They have no right or expertise to make decisions concerning legislation. I believe you that local politics is a big factor, but agree that it's so only because of ACC/NCAA corruption.
The thing is that they decided on my behalf as well as on yours. I have as much right as you to be represented by the ACC/NCAA as anyone else. The only proper course of action is for the ACC/NCAA to keep their snout out of politics.
You most certainly do not. The NCAA is a voluntary association of universities. You're not a university. And if you are somehow affiliated with a member university, then take it up with them.
The ACC and the NCAA are monopolies. Monopolies are held to a different standard than competitive, private enterprise. They have no business trying to pass judgment on local laws. Does Duke energy have a right to withhold electric service from NC because they disagree with you on HB2? How about withholding service from you or me, individually? How about PSNC, the regional natural gas supplier? We have laws, courts, and elections to work out questions like this.
Comparing the NCAA and the ACC to a public utility is absurd. And the ACC is absolutely not a monopoly.
This is the problem with the bill. Many of you are only arguing about the bathroom aspect of it, (go figure).
You mention a lawsuit, fact of the matter is, a person who is discriminated against has no legal recourse to bring a lawsuit. So if a transgendered or even a gay athlete, coach, or staff member of a university from out of state comes to participate in an event, it is not a given that they would be admitted everywhere. The arena, stadium, even a restaurant. Imagine an assistant coach of a soccer team not being admitted because someone discriminated against them because they were gay. The team would have to play without an important part of their make up. There is no recourse, none. No lawsuit allowed.
This is why these events are being moved out of the state. Open your eyes folks....
Most discrimination lawsuits are filed through federal courts. That is still an option for anyone. Also, the state still has anti-discrimination policies. HB2 just stopped cities from making up their own.
Ironically, there are no anti-discrimination laws for transgender people at the federal level and very few at the state and local level. North Carolina has been singled out, while most states don't offer the same protections.
The National Collegiate Athletic Association and Atlantic Coast Conference have issues being afraid of An Act to Provide for Single-sex Multiple Occupancy Bathroom and Changing Facilities in Schools and Public Agencies and to Create Statewide Consistency in Regulation of Employment and Public Accommodations instead of focusing collegiate athletics. Both organizations' opinions and actions may come haunt them.
What will collegiate athletics do when men and women's sports are eliminated?
Further, it makes the venue unwelcoming to LGBT people and their families and friends.
Why would Charlotte -- whose ordinance started this whole mess -- be considered "unwelcoming" to LGBT people? Are they really afraid of Charlotte, of all places? How about Raleigh and Cary? Are they especially threatening to LGBTs? More so than, say, Chicago or Baltimore? There's some remote chance of a "microaggression" in Cary, I suppose, whereas there is a real chance of losing your life when visiting Chicago or Baltimore.
Here's the difference. The NCAA doesn't get any brownie points for saying to Baltimore "either you clean up your murder rate or we're not coming here anymore," because Baltimore is under the jackboot of "progressives" -- i.e., liberal Democrats -- and has been for decades (much to their disadvantage).
This isn't just about transgender discrimination. It's about discrimination. Yes, the state may have some anti-discrimination policies, but if someone is discriminated against because of their sexual orientation, they now have no legal recourse in the state.
Why would any reasonable institution subject students or staff to the possibility of that happening?
This isn't just about transgender discrimination. It's about discrimination. Yes, the state may have some anti-discrimination policies, but if someone is discriminated against because of their sexual orientation, they now have no legal recourse in the state.
Why would any reasonable institution subject students or staff to the possibility of that happening?
Why would any reasonable institution subject its students or staff to the possibility of grievous physical harm when visiting locales with high crime rates? How about a nice trip to Detroit or Yonkers?
Why would any reasonable institution subject its students or staff to the possibility of grievous physical harm when visiting locales with high crime rates? How about a nice trip to Detroit or Yonkers?
LOL, Yonkers crime rate is much lower than Charlotte's. Just stop. This is really silly.
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