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I see the old battle of 2nd amendment rights has once again become center stage. Rather than pour gas on an open fire, I'd like to point out an issue or two about the actual topic of the thread. From what I've read so far, there has been no mention of Newell being delinquent on his tax bill. The best reason for this man to lose his property was this: Rockne Newell, 59, had lost his property this year in a court fight over complaints that he lived in a storage shed, built an illegal culvert and used a bucket outside as a toilet. As unappealing as this sounds, I think he may have been well within his Constitutional rights to live as he wishes. Now, this is the part that makes me wonder what direction this country is going in. Apparently, this has been a long running dispute between him and city officials. Newell actually took out an on line ad to help him with his legal fee's to help him "fight city hall" so to speak. Obviously this out reach for money to aid in his legal battle failed and the end result was a man losing his home. He feels lost and destitute, snaps and ends up going on a killing spree and ruining way too many lives. Now, after all this carnage, he is in a jail cell and guess what he gets??? Free legal representation!!!! Where was the little help this man needed for years to help resolve this issue? Sorry folks, this is not about gun control. It's about the poor as well as the wealthy to be afforded the same rights as provided in the Constitution.
None of that is an excuse to blow away city hall! If you are that destitute; you don't waste your money on dogs and guns! As far as we know right now; his problems have been ongoing for twenty years. That should have been time enough to change his ways and somewhat conform to society.
As Karen_s pointed out: "Had Mr. Rockne attempted to improve his property back when all this started, the fees and regulations would have undoubtedly been much simpler to handle. Instead, he has no on-site septic and is directly next to a stream, yuck! A stream that obviously floods, based upon his mention of reconstructing the bridge and getting assistance from FEMA."
Would you want to live downstream? Even the Amish have been in trouble with zoning for waste. Nobody singled out Newell except his own actions. Those actions were subject to change by Mr. Newell at any time - he just chose the wrong/tragic course. Don't try to make him some poor, downtrodden, saint!
From what I've read so far, there has been no mention of Newell being delinquent on his tax bill. The best reason for this man to lose his property was this: Rockne Newell, 59, had lost his property this year in a court fight over complaints that he lived in a storage shed, built an illegal culvert and used a bucket outside as a toilet. As unappealing as this sounds, I think he may have been well within his Constitutional rights to live as he wishes. Now, this is the part that makes me wonder what direction this country is going in. Apparently, this has been a long running dispute between him and city officials. Newell actually took out an on line ad to help him with his legal fee's to help him "fight city hall" so to speak. Obviously this out reach for money to aid in his legal battle failed and the end result was a man losing his home. He feels lost and destitute, snaps and ends up going on a killing spree and ruining way too many lives. Now, after all this carnage, he is in a jail cell and guess what he gets??? Free legal representation!!!! Where was the little help this man needed for years to help resolve this issue? Sorry folks, this is not about gun control. It's about the poor as well as the wealthy to be afforded the same rights as provided in the Constitution.
In these times no one has to fall this far into despair...he was living in the conditions that he was because he wanted...there are many organizations out there to help people in dire situations such as the one he was in since he obviously stated he couldn't afford legal fees or the money to install a septic system as is required...all he had to do, since he obviously had Internet access at his other residences, is go online and search for those organizations for assistance...you fail to realize, as I just stated, he had other places to live AND WAS living at them...it's stated in the Pocono Wreckerd and WNEP's website as well about that...so he wasn't living full-time at this particular property and I doubt he was since I drive by there everyday on my way to the post office which is right next to the municipal building where the shooting took place...rarely ever was he there on that property especially in the dead of winter with no electricity, heat, running water, or a decent place to sleep in it...had he been an ex-SEAL, Delta Force, Special Forces, or other military trained survival specialist maybe but he wasn't even that...even they know how to live in the wild but in much better conditions than Rockne was...
As of 5:30 am WNEP stated he lost THIS property at a sheriffs sale.
Correct...because he did nothing to help himself keep it...besides, like I stated, he wasn't living there full-time as everyone thinks...he had other places...
....rarely ever was he there on that property especially in the dead of winter with no electricity, heat, running water, or a decent place to sleep in it...had he been an ex-SEAL, Delta Force, Special Forces, or other military trained survival specialist maybe but he wasn't even that...even they know how to live in the wild but in much better conditions than Rockne was...
I can understand the complaints about the garbage and the sewage but that's a topic it in itself, I have no personal knowledge of this situation but if you have a outhouse in the middle of a big property that is properly being used I don't see the big deal especially with one person. If he is using a bucket and it's getting dumped into a waterway that is obviously a big issue.
As far as the no electric, heat etc you may find it extraordinary but it's not rocket science and if someone wants to live like that frankly I don't think it's anyone else's business.
If he is using a bucket and it's getting dumped into a waterway that is obviously a big issue. As far as the no electric, heat etc you may find it extraordinary but it's not rocket science and if someone wants to live like that frankly I don't think it's anyone else's business.
It's not no ones business but he wasn't living there 100% of the time...besides the place is uninhabitable in its current condition unless you built a fire to keep warm and in the winter months he was no where to be seen...his car was hardly ever there...as for the buckets yes they were there but obviously he wasn't dumping them into the little stream that passes in front of the property otherwise they'd be empty...
Oh, that's different. I don't have any problem with no electricity, plumbing but filth is filth. The guy obviously took a swan dive off of the high board.
As of 5:30 am WNEP stated he lost THIS property at a sheriffs sale.
If he lost it at the Sheriffs sale; then he had plenty of notice that his days on that property were over. If he had another property to go to; what was the big deal? Or, where his other properties also in jeopardy? I guess we will find out more in the criminal investigation and subsequent trial. It amazes me how many people let their property taxes go until the last second. Anyway, Sheriff's sale is not eminent domain.
Thanks Bloomin!
PS Does anybody know how many acres where in this property? Is it a large hunk of land?
PS Does anybody know how many acres where in this property? Is it a large hunk of land?
No it's not...it's just a little piece of property at the bottom alongside a mountain and narrow...with a little stream going by the front of the property...
No it's not...it's just a little piece of property at the bottom alongside a mountain and narrow...with a little stream going by the front of the property...
Here is an article that explains much of the property battle:Decades-long property battle ended with Newell losing land on July 25 | PoconoRecord.com It also states that the land is 1.1 acres and the 1990 deed stipulated that the land would not perk and no building could be built on site. Mr. Newell was not stupid (although I have no idea why he bought a piece of property that he could not build on and why did FEMA give him any money towards a bridge?). He was 'smart' enough to hold the Township at by for 17 years or so.
Does anybody know anything about his other property/s?
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