Single wall construction; I don't get it! (Honolulu, Hilo: home, taxes)

[Jungjohann]

Originally Posted by OpenD

Here, I'll make it easy...

6 inches thick is double wall. 3/4 inches thick is single wall.

GOONNGGGGGGG!!!!!!!

2x4=3.5 inches
T111, standard siding, 5/8 inch
drywall=1/2 inch

Even with 2x6 studs, you'll never add up to 6 inches

But who's counting, and what would I know, I'm still pissed off about the 2x4 not REALLY being 2x4. Talk about false advertising.

Now, aia i hea ka ua?

[davephan]

Here's a link to what super insulated double wall construction looks like:

https://www.google.com/search?q=supe...w=1111&bih=549

I found that by Googling "super insulated double wall construction". Single wall construction uses only one of the 2x4 or 2x6 walls for the outside walls. Obviously single and double wall construction is defined differently in Hawaii, and maybe other places that have warm climates. The building structures in cold climates need enough strength to handle several layers of roofing material, plus a heavy snow and ice load on the roof.

Most of the time when I helped with Sheetrocking jobs decades ago, we used 5/8" Sheetrock. Once in awhile 1/2" Sheetrock was used, but not very often. It was a pain to help the delivery guy unload the Sheetrock. The guy on the delivery truck always wanted to carry four or six sheets or 4' x 8' x 5/8" Sheetrock each trip from the truck to the building. Now, they have hydraulic machines to unload the trucks. We never used type "X" Sheetrock, which is more fire resistant and also dampens noise more than normal Sheetrock because the gypsum is more dense and has fiberglass in it.

[OpenD]

Originally Posted by Jungjohann

GOONNGGGGGGG!!!!!!!

2x4=3.5 inches
T111, standard siding, 5/8 inch
drywall=1/2 inch

Even with 2x6 studs, you'll never add up to 6 inches

You left out the Tyvek Brand Cannibal Barrier. That stuff is thicker than most people realize.

[hotzcatz]

I suspect that houses totally sheathed in Tyvek will eventually end up with huge mildew problems. Especially double wall (using the local Hawaii version of that term) type construction. That's just me, but if it were my house being built, no way would I want to wrap it in plastic. If anything, I'd add loads of screened holes to ventilate the place instead of trying to make it draft free.

Tyvek does have it's uses, though. If you are repairing cuckoo clock bellows, it's a dandy replacement for the thin leather that they were originally made from.

[richjsn]

Well I am from the midwest and with new construction methods and better knowledge of building codes I thought the midwest was dated. Then I moved to Hawaii. It’s funny how things here are done. Not just construction of homes but roads, infrastructure and planning. Hawaii is so far behind it’s funny in ways. You got to laugh at it. Between government corructuption and ideology of the past it’s entertaining at best. Take the federal stimulus package of 1.1 billion dollars they pissed away. Or how about the local electric companies are trying to fine people who put in solar pannels on their roofs because the electric grid is so outdate it can’t handle the impact.

I should import some hillbilly's from southern missouri to run the govenment. Might see some improvement on things.

Don’t get me started.

[Jungjohann]

Originally Posted by richjsn

Well I am from the midwest and with new construction methods and better knowledge of building codes I thought the midwest was dated. Then I moved to Hawaii. It’s funny how things here are done. Not just construction of homes but roads, infrastructure and planning. Hawaii is so far behind it’s funny in ways. You got to laugh at it. Between government corructuption and ideology of the past it’s entertaining at best. Take the federal stimulus package of 1.1 billion dollars they pissed away. Or how about the local electric companies are trying to fine people who put in solar pannels on their roofs because the electric grid is so outdate it can’t handle the impact.

I should import some hillbilly's from southern missouri to run the govenment. Might see some improvement on things.

Don’t get me started.

Look forward to your departure. NOTHING pisses off long time residents more than some likeke po'o mainlander pointing out Hawaii faults.

[OpenD]

Originally Posted by Jungjohann

Look forward to your departure. NOTHING pisses off long time residents more than some likeke po'o mainlander pointing out Hawaii faults.

I thought it, you said it.

[Jonah K]

Originally Posted by richjsn

Well I am from the midwest and with new construction methods and better knowledge of building codes I thought the midwest was dated. Then I moved to Hawaii. It’s funny how things here are done. Not just construction of homes but roads, infrastructure and planning. Hawaii is so far behind it’s funny in ways. You got to laugh at it. Between government corructuption and ideology of the past it’s entertaining at best. Take the federal stimulus package of 1.1 billion dollars they pissed away. Or how about the local electric companies are trying to fine people who put in solar pannels on their roofs because the electric grid is so outdate it can’t handle the impact.

I should import some hillbilly's from southern missouri to run the govenment. Might see some improvement on things.

Don’t get me started.

Although some folks from the Midwest might have an extensive knowledge of new construction methods and building codes, most legislators and bureaucrats in Hawaiʻi are unlikely to take advice and criticism from someone that doesn't know how to spell "corruption", "panels" and "government" and doesn't know that the plural of "hillbillies" is not "hillbilly's." "Attention to detail" is one of the hallmarks of good construction and legislation.

[Retired Early]

Originally Posted by OpenD

I thought it, you said it.

I thought the same thing and I'm a New Yorker, but then again I've seen many hicks come from out of town thinking they know it all, only to leave in tears when they found out the hard way that they didn't!

[oregonwoodsmoke]

Y'all have to admit, though, that there are some governmental shortcomings.

Very bad school system, roads not being paved, much needed sewer systems not installed, poorly trained and understaffed police force, graft, cronyism, and on and on. Basically, a lot of mismanagement of the very large collection of tax dollars.

Where is the money going?