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On Oahu, people aren't renting rooms to people with no jobs. If this was 2008, different story. Getting a room on craigslist is very difficult with no job unless there are serious issues with what you are trying to rent. Why would someone rent to someone with no job?
The no job people need to focus on a hostel, airbnb (although they are despised by many people), or VRBO where you can pay by credit card.
If you haven't run a credit check how do you know they pay bills on time? There are a lot of predatory people in Hawaii looking to find a rental where the landlord doesn't run a credit check - then you eventually have to do a costly eviction process. Ever watch the movie, Pacific Heights?
I always do a credit check and a criminal background check. In this market, I never need a listing up for more than a day or two and the tenant with a job, great credit, references, and no criminal history are the people I want living in my homes (and there are not a lack of them in Hawaii). Just saying.
Wow. You would RE background check people like teachers and lawyers who had to already be FBI/DOJ fingerprint cleared to get the LICENSE to get their job in the first place - wow. Just, wow. ******* level WOW. I as someone who holds both a law degree and a teaching license would never want to rent from anyone who even wanted to do that. I'd rather live in a hostel with a room full of TOURISTS than be insulted like that.
Uh, I ask people if they pay their bills on time. I have experienced more unethical/illegal behavior from the credit reporting agencies than I have from rental applicants. They are so "Billy said that Janie told him that so and so did something" Geez. I know more people that got screwed relying on "credit reports".
Pacific Heights? It's a FN movie! I don't date based on Fatal Attraction!
Costly Eviction? OK, My first recently. My mistake for relying on local references of someone that had a job, and references but was obviously a local scammer because most landlords don't follow through. $199 eviction in about 10 days. Paid out of their deposit. I actually came out ahead but shame on me. Freaked the POLICE when the tenant called them because I gave them 30 minutes to be GONE! Probably about $2,000 in police cost to negotiate $3,000 to me ON THE SPOT to delay the eviction.
I have 14 year tenants. I am not advocating my tenant screening process. Just reporting the facts.
Wow. You would RE background check people like teachers and lawyers who had to already be FBI/DOJ fingerprint cleared to get the LICENSE to get their job in the first place -
Breaking news - teachers and lawyers don't always pay their bills on time and also get evicted and file bankruptcies.
I've never met a potential tenant who refused. Ever. If they did, I wouldn't want them anyway - what are they trying to hide?
As someone who has done the whole move without a job thing, I can tell you that a good portion of the ads on Craigslist state that they will only consider people that have a job. Now this is not everyone, or even most of the ads, but this does exist out there.
Yes, it IS getting more and more like that lately, especially in areas where jobs are few and far between. Especially worse in areas of the country in which there are no tourist hostels or cheap weekly motels.
Wow. You would RE background check people like teachers and lawyers who had to already be FBI/DOJ fingerprint cleared to get the LICENSE to get their job in the first place - wow. Just, wow. ******* level WOW. I as someone who holds both a law degree and a teaching license would never want to rent from anyone who even wanted to do that. I'd rather live in a hostel with a room full of TOURISTS than be insulted like that.
Yes, I would do a background on EVERYONE. Just because someone was checked when they were first licensed doesn't mean that sometime later they are a good renter. My husband was a teacher, and he was fingerprinted when he first started teaching 25 years ago. What relevance does that have to his credit today?
Sounds like you are not the kind of tenant that I would like to rent to
Wow. You would RE background check people like teachers and lawyers who had to already be FBI/DOJ fingerprint cleared to get the LICENSE to get their job in the first place - wow. Just, wow. ******* level WOW. I as someone who holds both a law degree and a teaching license would never want to rent from anyone who even wanted to do that. I'd rather live in a hostel with a room full of TOURISTS than be insulted like that.
That's pretty standard practice, and not just in Hawaii.
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Wow. You would RE background check people like teachers and lawyers who had to already be FBI/DOJ fingerprint cleared to get the LICENSE to get their job in the first place - wow. Just, wow. ******* level WOW. I as someone who holds both a law degree and a teaching license would never want to rent from anyone who even wanted to do that. I'd rather live in a hostel with a room full of TOURISTS than be insulted like that.
I do the same thing ... require a credit check and background check for each tenant.
I've found that people with good credit and clean backgrounds typically have no problem with this requirement and no problem providing an application. Simply becausse they know they can pass the screening. The only people I've found who get upset over the screening, are those who know they likely wouldn't pass the screening. And more often than not, it's due to poor credit.
I've had teachers and bank employees apply and they had both recently passed their employment backgound checks ... so they were more than happy to apply because they knew they would pass the screening.
The only time I've ever had a problem was once 20 years ago with my first rental house. I rented to a couple people just based only on a referal from a mutual friend (no credit or background check). They were almost immediately late with with every payment and then pretty much stopped paying after several months. After about 4 months I had to evict them.
I always run background and credit checks of potential landlords, after one who was behind on all of the bills and his taxes. He had a nice place, but the water was cut off the second month I was there and not back on for two days.
Then, when several of us moved out because of the problems this caused, he slapped our credit reports for breaking our leases and slow pay of our rents . . .but none of us HAD leases, we were all on month-to-month, prepaid.
Another (that I didn't rent from) had been renting out his place to make gay porn orgy videos, and been arrested when some of the activities had taken place on the balcony. Tenants had complained to him, and his response had been along the lines of "you're just jealous that you weren't invited."
And then there was the one who had the habit of getting leases signed, then making life hell for tenants that he didn't like, to the point of demanding that one guy take his service dog off the property.
So many negative Nancys here.
I say go for it. You might wanna save up more than $5 or $6k tho.... maybe more like $10k...then go for it. If there is a will there is a way.
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