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Old 08-05-2015, 11:30 AM
 
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You're right, all bad things have only happened in Cleveland or Ohio somewhere. No matter that he was from Puerto Rico. Bad things have never happened anywhere else.
It is not about bad things happening in Ohio, it is about dysfunctional "neighborhoods" of isolated, indifferent people allowing bad things like that to happen.
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Old 08-05-2015, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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It is not about bad things happening in Ohio, it is about dysfunctional "neighborhoods" of isolated, indifferent people allowing bad things like that to happen.
I agree, only isolated violent neighborhoods happen in Ohio!!!

except for I guess New York City, where 13 people were shot in east New York at one house party for apparently no reason. And Baltimore, with a higher murder count this year than any year in the last 43 years. And Boston where three neighborhoods, including one about 1 mile from the core, account for virtually all violent crime. I could go on and on.
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Old 08-05-2015, 05:20 PM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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It is not about bad things happening in Ohio, it is about dysfunctional "neighborhoods" of isolated, indifferent people allowing bad things like that to happen.
And there are dysfunctional neighborhoods and people - EVERYWHERE.

Heard about Charles Manson? What about the torture slaying of Sylvia Likens? What about home invasions that happen in every state in the US?

Are you in some way saying that these horrific events are unique to Ohio?

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Old 08-05-2015, 06:26 PM
 
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And there are dysfunctional neighborhoods and people - EVERYWHERE.

Heard about Charles Manson? What about the torture slaying of Sylvia Likens? What about home invasions that happen in every stae in the US?

Are yoiu in some way saying that these horrific events are unique to Ohio?
The Sylvia Likens case is new to me. It's incredibly gruesome.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvia_Likens

I can't even joke about it and Indianapolis.
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Old 08-05-2015, 06:48 PM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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The Sylvia Likens case is new to me. It's incredibly gruesome.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvia_Likens

I can't even joke about it and Indianapolis.
I can't either. I didn't find out about it until 15 years after it happened.

Although geographically close, Indiana seems a world away from Ohio.

I have been haunted by the murder of Sylvia since I found out about it. There are many threads about Ms. Lykens murder on this forum. Put her name into "search"and many will come up.

There is a film about this called "An American Crime" It's hard to watch. But what happened toher was far worse.

A book "House of Evil" by John Dean is more accurate. And gruesome.

But - this did not happen in Ohio.
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Old 08-05-2015, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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The Sylvia Likens case is new to me. It's incredibly gruesome.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvia_Likens

I can't even joke about it and Indianapolis.
Wow I had never heard about that. Horrible things have happened everywhere. It is not a reflection of a city. It's just tragic.
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Old 08-05-2015, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Nashville TN
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I liked growing up in Ohio, its a great place to raise a family especially the Columbus area. The appeal is they have hard working down to earth people and its not as superficial as the East and West Coast.
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Old 08-06-2015, 12:10 AM
 
Location: Warren, OH
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We wish we moved here - 28 years ago - when we were first married. Ohio is a great family state with a reasonable cost of living.

Beautiful housing and low key people. We considered the south for about a month. With all that is going on down there, with the Confederate Flag and people calling the civil war "The War of Northern Aggression" - we made the right choice.

I love sports. I am a NY Knicks Fan but I am going to a Cavs game again this year. I love the Mets - but I'm trying to love the Indians too. Same goes with the Browns. I'm a Jets fan. But I have room in my heart for the Browns.

People here are laid back and cool. Ohio is a good place to live.
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Old 08-06-2015, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Greater Orlampa CSA
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I've thought about writing a combined travel/history book about Ohio, but there are all of Neil Zurcher's books out there. Have you read any of them?

I've loved history most of life. I would rather read history books than mysteries.
I have not, but will have to give them a read. I'm sure there's a unique/updated angle you could take.
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Old 08-06-2015, 04:26 PM
 
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Ohio isn't sexy, but it has nothing to be ashamed of. I'm going to post something EVERYBODY should think about and proving the old adage that "statistics are for losers."

Has anybody ever looked at a map? Texas is about the size of all 5 Great Lakes states (Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, Illinois, Wisconsin) taken together in terms of area (300,000-ish acres for the Great Lakes vs. 265,000-ish acres for Texas).

Population - Texas is about 28 million, versus 46 million for the Great Lakes states.

Texas GDP 1,602,584,000,000 (1.6 Trillion); vs Great Lakes GDP 2,397,659,000,000 (2.4 Trillion)

Per capita GDP - virtually the same.

Plenty of water and farmland.

Moderate temperatures.

MORAL OF THE STORY: Take all the garbage you hear about how great Texas is and throw it out the door!
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