[Griffis]

We need to stick together. There may be a couple of Okie Trolls here, and we may not all always agree, but I sincerely like everyone here and enjoy the discussions (and even arguments at times.)

[flintysooner]

Originally Posted by Griffis

We need to stick together. There may be a couple of Okie Trolls here, and we may not all always agree, but I sincerely like everyone here and enjoy the discussions (and even arguments at times.)

Yes, I've been saddened at the recent few disrespectful posters. I've always rather enjoyed the posters who contribute here.

[okie1962]

Even though I know but only a few on here personally, I think of all you guys as friends. I think it is rude to get on here for to sole purpose to upset others. I think of these folks as cowards. They get on here with a chip on their shoulder, they start a bunch of crap because they know they can get away with it. They know very well if they acted out the same way in public or work they would get their asz handed to them.

They are very much like the WBC in Topeka, they only do it for attention. So now when I see a troll, I just don't engage with them anymore. They throw turd bombs and sit back in eager anticipation waiting for others to respond. I don't give them the satisfaction anymore.

[verdelobo]

Originally Posted by Howest2008

OKC is looking for one ATTRIBUTE of TULSA OKLAHOMA " World Class VENUES " TULSA OKLAHOMA
always had them , OKLAHOMA CITY OKLAHOMA is doing everything in it's power to get them ( and catch up with TULSA OKLAHOMA).

1. Tulsa Oklahoma BOK Center is among the top's in the WORLD
2. Cain's Ballroom is among the top's in the WORLD
3. TULSA BALLET World class
4. Gilcrease Museum among top in the WORLD
5. Philbrook Museum among top in the WORLD
6. River Parks with the completion of ( The Gathering ) one of USA top Urban Parks
7.Sherwin Miller Jewish Museum top Regional Museum
8.Hard Rock Hotel and Casino top National Entertainment Venue
9. Oklahoma Aquariun top Regional Attraction
10. Urban Art Work City Wide

Get My Drift.....OKC does not have this as of YET.

This must be the most ignorant post ever.

Tulsa has always had The Gathering (stupid name for a park - sounds cult like) which hasn't even been built yet.

BOK center is how old?

CAINS overrated ballroom. You have to love the fact people love to promote Cains as a reason to move to Tulsa. How many time would you actually go if you lived there? Maybe one time a year if that.

OKC HAS

1. Chesapeake arena, that has more events year round then the BOK.
Also OKC has the Civic Center Music Hall, Diamond Ball room, The blue door, Red Hawks baseball stadium in Brick town

2. Brick-town blows away any entertain district that is exist in Tulsa

3. OKC has better district period. Example, Asian district OKC which is less then one mile long , but has more then 15 Asian restaurants and buffets, two full size asian markets, and numerous other Asian businesses. Little Mexico also know as sw 29th that has more panaderias, tiendas, and taquerias the all of Tulsa. Plus neighborhoods like DEEP DEUCE, MIDTOWN, FILM ROW, AUTOMOBILE ALLY and DOWNTOWN all of which right now have ongoing development.

4. OVER 1000 apartment's and housing under construction or soon to be started in the downtown OKC area.

5. 130 million 70 acre park, which will connect down town with the river.

6. Museums, OKC has many great museums. National Cowboy & Western Heritage Museum, Science Museum Oklahoma, Oklahoma City National Memorial and Museum, but again most Museum you only visit once or twice in you life time. Not a good selling point for someone wanting to move to a particular city.

7 White water park being built right now on the river similar to the one in Charlotte, but better location.

8 Construction of street car is soon to start.

9. Also OKC has better Malls and an outlet center = better shopping.

OKC has left Tulsa in its dust. Also I would advise anyone thinking of moving to Tulsa, be-careful of moving to a city that lost population in the last census.

[teakboat]

Tulsa has somewhat outgrown its smallish city limits which merge into the large and growing suburban areas. OKC is nice for what it is, but I like Tulsa better. Much more charm, more interesting old neighborhoods, more character, prettier landscape. I can spring for a trip to San Antonio for a real Riverwalk if that urge ever strikes me again.

[bchris02]

Originally Posted by verdelobo

This must be the most ignorant post ever.

Tulsa has always had The Gathering (stupid name for a park - sounds cult like) which hasn't even been built yet.

BOK center is how old?

CAINS overrated ballroom. You have to love the fact people love to promote Cains as a reason to move to Tulsa. How many time would you actually go if you lived there? Maybe one time a year if that.

OKC HAS

1. Chesapeake arena, that has more events year round then the BOK.
Also OKC has the Civic Center Music Hall, Diamond Ball room, The blue door, Red Hawks baseball stadium in Brick town

2. Brick-town blows away any entertain district that is exist in Tulsa

3. OKC has better district period. Example, Asian district OKC which is less then one mile long , but has more then 15 Asian restaurants and buffets, two full size asian markets, and numerous other Asian businesses. Little Mexico also know as sw 29th that has more panaderias, tiendas, and taquerias the all of Tulsa. Plus neighborhoods like DEEP DEUCE, MIDTOWN, FILM ROW, AUTOMOBILE ALLY and DOWNTOWN all of which right now have ongoing development.

4. OVER 1000 apartment's and housing under construction or soon to be started in the downtown OKC area.

5. 130 million 70 acre park, which will connect down town with the river.

6. Museums, OKC has many great museums. National Cowboy & Western Heritage Museum, Science Museum Oklahoma, Oklahoma City National Memorial and Museum, but again most Museum you only visit once or twice in you life time. Not a good selling point for someone wanting to move to a particular city.

7 White water park being built right now on the river similar to the one in Charlotte, but better location.

8 Construction of street car is soon to start.

9. Also OKC has better Malls and an outlet center = better shopping.

OKC has left Tulsa in its dust. Also I would advise anyone thinking of moving to Tulsa, be-careful of moving to a city that lost population in the last census.

I agree with this, mostly. Tulsa's days as the superior city in the state are numbered as fast as development is moving in OKC. Tulsa still has its strengths though. Of course Central Oklahoma will never be able to compete with Green Country in terms of natural beauty. Bricktown OKC is nice but it doesn't quite have that hip vibe many young professionals today are looking for. Brady and Blue Dome do however. OKC is currently developing its own districts however and they are developing at a rapid rate. Watch the Plaza, Midtown, Auto Alley, and 23rd St. The real test will be when coveted new-to-state retailers start opening in OKC first rather than Tulsa. With Costco likely going to Tulsa first I don't think we've quite reached that point yet. The new Outlet Mall in OKC has helped even things out. Another thing is big name concerts usually pick Tulsa over OKC. However, despite OKC lacking some of the pleasantries Tulsa has, I think OKC is better poised for the future.

[#1soonerfan]

Meh, outside of Midtown Tulsa, the cities are basically the same. Get a person from outside this part of the country, and have them tell the difference between the two cities looking at Northwest Expressway in OKC and Memorial Drive in Tulsa...they won't be able to.

I personally prefer OKC. I love the can-do attitude of the city. One would have a difficult time keeping up with development (both present and future) right now. The MAPS3 projects have the potential to really take the city to the next level. I also appreciate the level of diversity you get in OKC; Tulsa can seem much more segregated despite having similar demographics.

At the same time, I appreciate the small nuances with Tulsa. it can be very charming on some levels. And while there pace of development is slower than OKC, the piecemeal approach they take is much suited for them given the strains on their tax base by the suburbs (I'm looking at you Broken Arrow!). I'll give them a break on their population loss as the first part of 2000's was very rough for Tulsa. As of last check they are slowly adding population.

Ultimately the cities are far more alike than they are different. I don't believe one should take swipes at one just to make the other look better. They both have many positive attributes that residents in each can appreciate.

[bchris02]

Another thing I would suggest is that anybody who likes Tulsa's older, charming neighborhoods should visit Heritage Hills and Mesta Park in OKC. Most Tulsans know of Nichols Hills but the real jewels are these rather hidden neighborhoods just north of Midtown.

[verdelobo]

Originally Posted by bchris02

I agree with this, mostly. Tulsa's days as the superior city in the state are numbered as fast as development is moving in OKC. Tulsa still has its strengths though. Of course Central Oklahoma will never be able to compete with Green Country in terms of natural beauty. Bricktown OKC is nice but it doesn't quite have that hip vibe many young professionals today are looking for. Brady and Blue Dome do however. OKC is currently developing its own districts however and they are developing at a rapid rate. Watch the Plaza, Midtown, Auto Alley, and 23rd St. The real test will be when coveted new-to-state retailers start opening in OKC first rather than Tulsa. With Costco likely going to Tulsa first I don't think we've quite reached that point yet. The new Outlet Mall in OKC has helped even things out. Another thing is big name concerts usually pick Tulsa over OKC. However, despite OKC lacking some of the pleasantries Tulsa has, I think OKC is better poised for the future.

The new white water center is going to be huge for okc. I've Lived in Charlotte for two years and I have visited the white water center. It's bad ass. The only problem there is the location. Here in okc you can leave work early from downtown and walk to the center. Go white water rafting, then go to a concert or movies, then get some food, after hit the bar, then back home. All with out having to drive. This will be a game changer for the city and set it apart. When people see the center they will be blown away!

[bchris02]

Originally Posted by verdelobo

The new white water center is going to be huge for okc. I've Lived in Charlotte for two years and I have visited the white water center. It's bad ass. The only problem there is the location. Here in okc you can leave work early from downtown and walk to the center. Go white water rafting, then go to a concert or movies, then get some food, after hit the bar, then back home. All with out having to drive. This will be a game changer for the city and set it apart. When people see the center they will be blown away!

I lived in Charlotte for three years but never got a chance to go to the Whitewater center. I'm definitely looking forward to the one opening here.